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You're missing the point, you wound need capacity and storage 10, 20 or 30 times what you need in that 8 hour period. Whether it's 10, 20 or 30 is dependent on how safe you feel with the length of storage capacity.
Uhh no. I understand it pretty well. Hydrogen is reasonably easily stored. And no you don't need 10, 20 or 30 days unless that is the period before you get access again. In my vicinity 3 days. And I can make a product that can be shipped to your area. And of course would. If the numbers get to be right we fill great hunks of our unending desert with solar arrays...and ship the energy back to the poor people who live where the sun does not shine regularly.
And you seem to feel their is some requirement that the electric grid goes away. Why would you think that? What we need is a better stronger grid to deal with all this...now a weaker one.
So when some area in upstate NY gets no wind or sun light for 40 days those of us in more enlightened areas ship them energy.
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as long as its the other guy scenario
yep,that's the way it works...And I REALLY hope these goobers that are all up for Keystone have to sell their property and move because it runs right through the middle of their living rooms too
yep,that's the way it works...And I REALLY hope these goobers that are all up for Keystone have to sell their property and move because it runs right through the middle of their living rooms too
Just think of all the money you will save on gas as you load the household goods up for the move. I know, always a bright spot
Man that sucks. I pay 5 bucks a case for bottle water and sometimes less on sale. Hope you don't have to go that route.
So, you're against the science which has proven that fracking does not cause harm to the groundwater? The EPA even had to admit this is so. Anti-science fracking hysteria I guess.
So, you're against the science which has proven that fracking does not cause harm to the groundwater? The EPA even had to admit this is so. Anti-science fracking hysteria I guess.
I don't live in an area where there is fracking. My ground water is not drinkable for other reasons. Please, provide me the link you are referring to that you read.
One thing makes me curious though. It takes years and years and years to complete studies which in the mean time they claim there is no proof so that is reason to let it continue and years and years and years until they say it might but we don't know or we'er not positive. But now on demand we have science that proves it's ok. And it looks 100 years into the future too.
I'm not hysterical at all unless it's with laughter. The straight jacket some people are willing to wear on their mind keeps me amused. Having seen with my own eyes what some people have gone through its hard for me to deny it never happened.
Until it's proven that it is unsafe, frack baby frack. We should continue to monitor and find better ways to do it, gel fracking is starting to show promise, so we'll see.
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Just think of all the money you will save on gas as you load the household goods up for the move. I know, always a bright spot
Lmao..naw,they'll still gouge us on gas too..there are several land owners around here already hooked up with a wonderful slimey little lawyer that rubs his hands together alot and we have had our wells tested now for a baseline..I have city water that's piped from an aquafier and goes through a treatment plant about 40 iles away,but we have three wells on our place too..we'll see how that all plays out..I might get my gas PAID for by a bunch of scumbags out of Ohio to move also been some talk about suing those who leased to them as well if our wells turn up with anything related to fracking whatsoever..we'll see how that plays out too
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So, you're against the science which has proven that fracking does not cause harm to the groundwater? The EPA even had to admit this is so. Anti-science fracking hysteria I guess.
I always love big mouths with nothing invested in a situation and who know EVERYTHING
Lmao..naw,they'll still gouge us on gas too..there are several land owners around here already hooked up with a wonderful slimey little lawyer that rubs his hands together alot and we have had our wells tested now for a baseline..I have city water that's piped from an aquafier and goes through a treatment plant about 40 iles away,but we have three wells on our place too..we'll see how that all plays out..I might get my gas PAID for by a bunch of scumbags out of Ohio to move
I always love big mouths with nothing invested in a situation and who know EVERYTHING
I don't live in an area where there is fracking. My ground water is not drinkable for other reasons. Please, provide me the link you are referring to that you read.
One thing makes me curious though. It takes years and years and years to complete studies which in the mean time they claim there is no proof so that is reason to let it continue and years and years and years until they say it might but we don't know or we'er not positive. But now on demand we have science that proves it's ok. And it looks 100 years into the future too.
I'm not hysterical at all unless it's with laughter. The straight jacket some people are willing to wear on their mind keeps me amused. Having seen with my own eyes what some people have gone through its hard for me to deny it never happened.
Already did upthread. You do realize fracking has been going on for fifty years, right?
There's any number of articles though where you could find that information, the studies done, and even how the EPA has not been able to show any evidence of groundwater contamination from fracking.
I'll repost the links to the articles for you which both talk of the study just completed on this issue.
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yep,that's the way it works...And I REALLY hope these goobers that are all up for Keystone have to sell their property and move because it runs right through the middle of their living rooms too 
