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Old 11-19-2014, 01:12 PM
 
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So it looks like Obama is creating a plan which will allow millions of illegal aliens to remain inside the USA thus taking up the jobs the poor and lower middle class americans need.

How can you justify this as ok given you guys stand here and stomp your feet about how government is there to help this segment of society..
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Old 11-19-2014, 01:16 PM
 
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So it looks like Obama is creating a plan which will allow millions of illegal aliens to remain inside the USA thus taking up the jobs the poor and lower middle class americans need.

How can you justify this as ok given you guys stand here and stomp your feet about how government is there to help this segment of society..

As New Jersey Chris Christie just tweeted about this immigration issue: 'Let's wait to see what the president says tomorrow night before we have any kind of reaction to that' .

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Old 11-19-2014, 01:17 PM
 
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"Its good to be king!"- Barack Obama
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Old 11-19-2014, 01:18 PM
 
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Not sure it will make all that much of a difference, I mean they're here already.

Its not like the Republicans have done much to solve this-I seem to recall a Republican president doing much the same earlier.

Mind you, I disagree with the decision, but suddenly saying obama and liberals, while ignoring the Republicans doing the same thing....seems kind of wrong ya know?
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Old 11-19-2014, 01:25 PM
 
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Not sure it will make all that much of a difference, I mean they're here already.

Its not like the Republicans have done much to solve this-I seem to recall a Republican president doing much the same earlier.

Mind you, I disagree with the decision, but suddenly saying obama and liberals, while ignoring the Republicans doing the same thing....seems kind of wrong ya know?
Pretty much.
If the GOP really cared, the first thing they would do is pass E-Verify along with teeth to make the crime to costly to risk. Spending billions on border security will never work as long as the bait remains.
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Old 11-19-2014, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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So it looks like Obama is creating a plan which will allow millions of illegal aliens to remain inside the USA thus taking up the jobs the poor and lower middle class americans need.

How can you justify this as ok given you guys stand here and stomp your feet about how government is there to help this segment of society..
Apparently the announcement will be to give amnesty to parents of children born in the US. I challenge you to find a GOP Congressman or Senator who wants to deport parents of US citizen children. I double dog dare you ...but expect replies will be off topic.
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Old 11-19-2014, 01:31 PM
 
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It's amazing to watch him eat his own young for votes. Quite honestly I've never seen a group of people that dumb that are allowing him to do it.
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Old 11-19-2014, 01:33 PM
 
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Apparently the announcement will be to give amnesty to parents of children born in the US. I challenge you to find a GOP Congressman or Senator who wants to deport parents of US citizen children. I double dog dare you ...but expect replies will be off topic.
Dont know about senators or congressmen but *I* do. they are criminals. If I break a serious law me having children wont suddenly give me a get out of jail free card.
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Old 11-19-2014, 01:34 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Apparently the announcement will be to give amnesty to parents of children born in the US. I challenge you to find a GOP Congressman or Senator who wants to deport parents of US citizen children.
The children shouldn't even be U.S. citizens. They were born owing allegiance to a foreign sovereign via their parents' countries' jus sanguinis nationality laws. The only group of people given exception to the "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" requirement of the 14th Amendment is Native Americans via the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924. Prior to that, and even after the 14th Amendment, Native Americans didn't qualify for birthright U.S. citizenship because although they were born in the U.S., they were born owing allegiance to their own sovereign nations.
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Old 11-19-2014, 01:46 PM
 
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Lets summarize the replies so far
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As New Jersey Chris Christie just tweeted about this immigration issue: 'Let's wait to see what the president says tomorrow night before we have any kind of reaction to that' .

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Dont want to talk about it
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Not sure it will make all that much of a difference, I mean they're here already.

Its not like the Republicans have done much to solve this-I seem to recall a Republican president doing much the same earlier.

Mind you, I disagree with the decision, but suddenly saying obama and liberals, while ignoring the Republicans doing the same thing....seems kind of wrong ya know?
It doesnt matter
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Pretty much.
If the GOP really cared, the first thing they would do is pass E-Verify along with teeth to make the crime to costly to risk. Spending billions on border security will never work as long as the bait remains.
Blame the GOP
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Apparently the announcement will be to give amnesty to parents of children born in the US. I challenge you to find a GOP Congressman or Senator who wants to deport parents of US citizen children. I double dog dare you ...but expect replies will be off topic.
If you follow the law, you're mean...

not one addressing the topic
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