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Old 11-21-2014, 10:03 AM
 
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Proof? Alcohol in ancient times has evidence from archaeology and literature.

In fact even smoking is a relatively new habit in the Old World.
here ya go.
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The Yanghai Tombs, a vast ancient cemetery (54 000 m2) situated in the Turfan district of the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region of the People's Republic of China, have revealed the 2700-year-old grave of a shaman. He is thought to have belonged to the Jushi culture recorded in the area centuries later in the Hanshu, Chap 96B.[109] Near the head and foot of the shaman was a large leather basket and wooden bowl filled with 789g of cannabis, superbly preserved by climatic and burial conditions. An international team demonstrated that this material contained tetrahydrocannabinol, the psychoactive component of cannabis. The cannabis was presumably employed by this culture as a medicinal or psychoactive agent, or an aid to divination. This is the oldest documentation of cannabis as a pharmacologically active agent.[110]
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Old 11-21-2014, 10:04 AM
 
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'at least no harm'? have you ever heard of cirrhosis of the liver?

cannabis use is also thousands of years old. it's quite a stretch to say that any consumption of marijuana is harmful, especially since, as the poster above points out, it can be eaten, which negates any ill health effects.
Drinking too much water can cause death too. I'm talking about "slightly drinking".

Also, alcohol can only be consumed by drinking, so there is no direct chemical effect on other individuals (except for pregnant women and their baby). However marijuana is totally different.
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Old 11-21-2014, 10:08 AM
 
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here ya go.
Shaman? They did all kinds of weird things, and do not represent common population of that time. Their job was to get high and behave oddly.

In fact cannabis consumption has always been extremely rare in China.
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Old 11-21-2014, 10:20 AM
 
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Shaman? They did all kinds of weird things, and do not represent common population of that time. Their job was to get high and behave oddly.

In fact cannabis consumption has always been extremely rare in China.
you asked for proof of a long history, and now you complain that a shaman was involved?

here. go find something wrong with this one.

Marijuana - The First Twelve Thousand Years - 1. Cannabis in the Ancient World
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Old 11-21-2014, 10:23 AM
 
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Drinking too much water can cause death too. I'm talking about "slightly drinking".

Also, alcohol can only be consumed by drinking, so there is no direct chemical effect on other individuals (except for pregnant women and their baby). However marijuana is totally different.

wrong o

people are eye balling alcohol..

people are doing butt chugging with alcohol..

people are vaporizing alcohol..

its amazing how far boozers will go to defend their drug of choice


Some teens, young adults abusing alcohol by 'vodka eyeballing'


Dangerous viral trend threatens teens: 'Smoking' alcohol - News - TODAY.com


Butt-Chugging: Students, Experts Recoil At Alcohol Enema Case
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Old 11-21-2014, 10:28 AM
 
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Drinking too much water can cause death too. I'm talking about "slightly drinking".
so what? you claimed drinking alcohol 'at least causes no harm.'

and you said nothing about 'slightly drinking.' are you wanting to compare that with 'slightly' using marijuana?



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Also, alcohol can only be consumed by drinking, so there is no direct chemical effect on other individuals (except for pregnant women and their baby). However marijuana is totally different.
what does that have to do with anything? eating cannabis or smoking it outdoors affects no one but the user as well.
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Old 11-21-2014, 10:39 AM
 
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Shaman? They did all kinds of weird things, and do not represent common population of that time. Their job was to get high and behave oddly.

In fact cannabis consumption has always been extremely rare in China.

cannabis is the most used drug in the world now surpassing alcohol, and its a lot safer... one only has to look up the stats on alcohol to see for them selves..
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Old 11-21-2014, 10:41 AM
 
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No wonder. It turns mass populations into duds who think they're the next Einstein. Although I agree, I've seen alcohol screw up more lives than marijuana.
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Old 11-21-2014, 10:44 AM
 
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so what? you claimed drinking alcohol 'at least causes no harm.'

and you said nothing about 'slightly drinking.' are you wanting to compare that with 'slightly' using marijuana?





what does that have to do with anything? eating cannabis or smoking it outdoors affects no one but the user as well.

I know people that smoke like one joint a week, and some only partake like once a month, some smoke a little a day..

just like I know people that drink a few drinks a week, some a few per month, and some drink a few per day.. personally I drink like once a year or less for the past fifteen years..
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Old 11-21-2014, 05:14 PM
 
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That's a sharp decline in one year. I wonder how many people like me have altered their thinking on legalization in the wake of Obamacare and millions of new recipients of Medicaid.
You mean you fear more people smoking pot means more people being made sick from it and adding stress to an already strained medical system, therefore, legalization should of marijuana should stop?
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