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Old 11-27-2014, 08:03 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Wrong. Huckleberry, I view people who could have made the same incomes in easier ways given their background but who chose the harder way as it helped people in awe. Hospice staff would definitely fit that bill, all could be doctors and nurses in far easier surroundings given their training, making the same pay.

Cops generally do not fit that bill. For their level of pre-employment education and training, many are being paid far in excess of what they could make elsewhere. Too many do it solely for that reason.
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Old 11-27-2014, 08:28 PM
 
Location: southern california
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Wrong. Huckleberry, I view people who could have made the same incomes in easier ways given their background but who chose the harder way as it helped people in awe. Hospice staff would definitely fit that bill, all could be doctors and nurses in far easier surroundings given their training, making the same pay.

Cops generally do not fit that bill. For their level of pre-employment education and training, many are being paid far in excess of what they could make elsewhere. Too many do it solely for that reason.
I know doctors and hospice workers. Very few doctors working hospice
Many doctors volunteer but there are intangible benefits pertaining to career and prestige in doing so
Cop work and nursing are both difficult jobs not every job requires a PhD -just guts
nursing and law enforcement I know
Don't snear at either til u try it
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Old 11-27-2014, 08:32 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Not smearing, but not falsely honoring either. Cops do a job and get paid. It is just like any other business deal.
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Old 11-27-2014, 08:34 PM
 
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On average, in ANY job, there is approximately 10% that should not be there....probably should be immediately fired. In a profession such as police work, of course this formula holds true. When a bad-apple is a cop, it is probably going to have a lot more impact than that bad-apple who is a janitor or burger-flipper.

I don't think a cop is a hero...unless they do something truly heroic, like saving someone from a burning car.

I think the word HERO is way overused, kinda has lost its meaning.
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Old 11-27-2014, 08:43 PM
 
Location: California
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Default Are police still looked at as "heroes"?

I admire the police, it's a tough job putting up with pissed off people every day but I think the word Hero is way over used, being a police officer does not automatically make a person a Hero.
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Old 11-27-2014, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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Having a dangerous job does not give you the right to be called a hero. Hitler was a solider in WWI. Was he a hero? Bin Laden was a soldier too. Was he a hero?

Simply being a cop or being a solider or whatever does not grant you the title 'hero.' You need to do something to actually earn it. Change the system. Improve people's lives.

If a cop does that, then they're a hero. But cops as a general term are not heroes just because they put their lives on the line. They're in a position of power. This gives them confidence. But if they ever were up against trained killers, how likely is it they'd be of much use? Some, certainly. But this Darren Wilson guy... not a chance. He took 12 shots to kill Mike Brown. Even if we assume Wilson's story is accurate, Brown barely got two punches in by the look of his injuries so obviously this cop isn't a capable cop. I've never fired a gun in my life and I'm certain I could kill a man in less that 5 shots. A cop who got hit shouldn't feel so in danger that he fires 12 rounds, which could easily by the magazine capacity of the gun he was carrying. So, Wilson's not a hero because he's an obvious coward and unskilled cop, even if his story is true.
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Old 11-27-2014, 08:50 PM
 
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If you think that just being a cop, or anything else, makes someone a hero then you need to look up the definition of the word! Now if by hero you mean people that murder innocent unarmed Americans and non-threatening pets, then by all means they rank at the top!

Law Enforcement isn't even among the top ten most dangerous jobs/occupations.
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Old 11-27-2014, 08:58 PM
 
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Having a dangerous job does not give you the right to be called a hero. Hitler was a solider in WWI. Was he a hero? Bin Laden was a soldier too. Was he a hero?

Simply being a cop or being a solider or whatever does not grant you the title 'hero.' You need to do something to actually earn it. Change the system. Improve people's lives.

If a cop does that, then they're a hero. But cops as a general term are not heroes just because they put their lives on the line. They're in a position of power. This gives them confidence. But if they ever were up against trained killers, how likely is it they'd be of much use? Some, certainly. But this Darren Wilson guy... not a chance. He took 12 shots to kill Mike Brown. Even if we assume Wilson's story is accurate, Brown barely got two punches in by the look of his injuries so obviously this cop isn't a capable cop. I've never fired a gun in my life and I'm certain I could kill a man in less that 5 shots. A cop who got hit shouldn't feel so in danger that he fires 12 rounds, which could easily by the magazine capacity of the gun he was carrying. So, Wilson's not a hero because he's an obvious coward and unskilled cop, even if his story is true.
You got the "pizza box" or "Maggie's Drawers" dude.
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Old 11-27-2014, 09:00 PM
 
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I don't consider cops, heroes. Maybe some. But many take advantage of their position and they are very good at intimidation even it's just a minor traffic offense.
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Old 11-27-2014, 09:06 PM
 
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Not heroes in my opinion. Something has gone seriously wrong with policing in the U.S. It is unlike the policing I have seen in any other civilized country.

From an excellent recent interview with Frank Serpico (remember him?):

"Today the combination of an excess of deadly force and near-total lack of accountability is more dangerous than ever: Most cops today can pull out their weapons and fire without fear that anything will happen to them, even if they shoot someone wrongfully.

All a police officer has to say is that he believes his life was in danger, and he’s typically absolved.

What do you think that does to their psychology as they patrol the streets—this sense of invulnerability?

The famous old saying still applies: Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."


Read more: The Police Are Still Out of Control - Frank Serpico - POLITICO Magazine
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