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Gun violence has actually decreased quite a bit in the last twenty years. At the same time more states have passed "shall issue" laws and more citizens have obtained concealed carry permits. Is there a correlation? I don't know. Some people make that case. Others poke holes in it. But there is zero evidence to make the case that increased ownership of firearms by law abiding citizens has led to more gun violence. Zero.
It's always amazing how one incident like this is always used as an indictment on guns to some people, and yet, the thousands of stories every year where someone successfully defended themselves with a gun somehow mean absolutely nothing......
Gun violence has actually decreased quite a bit in the last twenty years. At the same time more states have passed "shall issue" laws and more citizens have obtained concealed carry permits. Is there a correlation? I don't know. Some people make that case. Others poke holes in it. But there is zero evidence to make the case that increased ownership of firearms by law abiding citizens has led to more gun violence. Zero.
The largest study of gun violence in the United States, released Thursday afternoon, confirms a point that should be obvious: widespread American gun ownership is fueling America’s gun violence epidemic.
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Of course, the authors don’t find that rates of gun ownership explain all of America’s gun violence epidemic: race, economic inequality and generally violent areas all contribute to an area’s propensity for gun deaths, suggesting that broader social inequality, not gun ownership alone, contributes to the gun violence epidemic. Nevertheless, the fact that gun ownership mattered even when race and poverty were accounted for suggests that we can’t avoid talking about America’s fascination with guns when debating what to do about the roughly 11,000 Americans who are yearly murdered by gunfire.
I can't imagine that this was a bad area where she
needed to carry a loaded gun,
Where are the areas where we would need to carry a gun? Your very statement concedes the fact that you believe there are in fact areas where one would need to carry a gun, and I'm curious where you believe those areas to be?
Also, perhaps you could tell me where the areas in which I need to wear a seat belt are as well. Have accidents somehow become more predictable and I just don't know about it?
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too many people with guns that don't follow very, very simple gun
safety rules
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This I agree with. There are a lot of morons out there, though, their hijinx are not limited to guns.
The implicit argument made by conservative media is that there is a causal link between reports of booming gun sales in recent years and the overall decline of gun homicide over the past 20 years. But this claim misunderstands how gun ownership has changed during this time period. According to the General Social Survey, household firearm ownership has fallen from 43 percent in the 1990s to 35 percent in the 2000s. Overall household ownership is down from 50 percent in the 1970s. As Daniel Webster, director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research, explained to The New York Times, "There are all these claims that gun ownership is going through the roof. But I suspect the increase in gun sales has been limited mostly to current gun owners. The most reputable surveys show a decline over time in the share of households with guns."
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Furthermore, the rate of serious gunshot wounds -- those that require hospitalization -- increased by nearly half between 2001 and 2011. The fact that more gunshot victims are surviving their wounds is hardly evidence for the conservative media's support of weaker gun laws.
First of all, your article is from ThinkProgress, so there's strike one right off the bat.
Second, the article doesn't really prove anything at all. It basically claims that where there are more guns, there will be more incidents of murder with a gun.
WOW..... what a ground-breaking conclusion! Someone should win a reward for it!!!!!!
I wonder if countries with more cars, will have more traffic fatalities?
I wonder if countries with more dogs, will have more incidents of dog-bites?
Posting a study saying that more guns will result in more "shooting" deaths is just a way to convince the less intelligent among us that guns are the actual problem. However, for those of us capable of thought, we know it's a statistic that really doesn't prove anything at all. A real answer would be to determine why people are murdering at all, with anything, knife, gun, etc.
If only more toddlers were armed, they could have done something instead of watching helplessly!
Great idea... How is the Letter to your Senator pushing for the arming of Toddlers coming along?
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