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Old 01-09-2015, 10:11 AM
 
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Liars gonna lie.
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Old 01-09-2015, 10:14 AM
 
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The New York Times lied, coveredup and obfuscated the truth.

Puhlease.
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Old 01-09-2015, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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If the woman really told them that, why not say that when they originally changed the quote? They didn't. They added that claim after they got caught editing her original quote. So, no, I don't believe them. They are editing the story on the fly as they get caught without admitting to the editing.
I bet the response is going to be they misinterpreted the French.
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Old 01-09-2015, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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If the lady, who is the source of the quote, says that Radio France got the initial quote wrong, why wouldn't you believe her?
You realize that it's entirely possible that Radio France made a mistake, right? Or the reporters juiced up the quote to make it more sensational, right? Emotions were definitely running high in the aftermath of the tragedy, so these scenarios are entirely plausible. You also need to realize that the quote is a translation from French to English.
It doesn't make sense to assume the NYT is in the wrong when the source of the quote backs them up.
There's no quote from her though. This is the NYT saying she said that.
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Old 01-09-2015, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The original article. Grammar may be off because Google translated it.

Google Translate
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Old 01-09-2015, 10:36 AM
 
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The New York Times originally posted the correct quote from a woman who was a victim in the Paris attack:



Later the Times, in an apparent attempt to protect Islam, edited her quote:


The original quote was from Radio France and she absolutely said that the attackers told her to convert, read the Quran, and cover up. The second Times "quote" was completely made up by them. I just don't understand why the Times thinks they have the right to flat out make up a quote for someone.

Edited a direct quote to something a person didn't say is lying. The Times flat out lied to their readers when they edited that quote. They have zero ethics. No wonder they are going under.

NY Times Removes Mention of Islam, Quran from Paris Survivor’s Account | Mediaite
I call BS that the men said ANYTHING even REMOTELY similiar to any of that to her. Like they're going to take the time to preach to her about Islam? Give me a break. God, some people will believe anything.
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Old 01-09-2015, 10:47 AM
 
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I don't understand the complaint here.

The NYT specifically stated that the woman disputed the quote originally attributed to her by another source, and they gave both versions.

What are they supposed to do?



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Sigolène Vinson, a freelance journalist who had come in that morning to take part in the meeting, said that when the shooting started, she thought she would be killed. Ms. Vinson said in an interview that she dropped to the floor and crawled down the hall to hide behind a partition, but one of the gunmen spotted her and grabbed her by the arm, pointing his gun at her head. Instead of pulling the trigger, though, he told her she would not be killed because she was a woman.

She disputed a quotation attributed to her and carried on the website of the French radio service RFI stating that the gunman had told her she should convert to Islam, read the Quran and cover herself. Instead, she told The New York Times in an interview, the gunman told her: “Don’t be afraid, calm down, I won’t kill you.” He spoke in a steady voice, she said, with a calm look in his eyes, saying: “ ‘You are a woman. But think about what you’re doing. It’s not right.’ ” Then she said he turned to his partner, who was still shooting, and shouted: “We don’t shoot women! We don’t shoot women! We don’t shoot women”

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/09/wo...ebdo.html?_r=2
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Old 01-09-2015, 11:17 AM
 
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I don't understand the complaint here.

The NYT specifically stated that the woman disputed the quote originally attributed to her by another source, and they gave both versions.

What are they supposed to do?

I know it's hard to read through the whole thread. It a whole 2 pages long. The New York Times has been editing and changing the story as they go. The latest version emerged after they got caught changing the woman's quote with no explanation.
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Old 01-09-2015, 12:15 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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I know it's hard to read through the whole thread. It a whole 2 pages long. The New York Times has been editing and changing the story as they go. The latest version emerged after they got caught changing the woman's quote with no explanation.

New York Times, no explanation needed!
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Old 01-09-2015, 01:31 PM
 
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What are they supposed to do?

Confirm before publishing anything especially when you are quoting someone.
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