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Old 01-13-2015, 01:41 PM
 
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As does the left. Last time I checked, Obama is still leading the war on drugs. Yes, it's purely political.

Last time I checked Obama ordered the DOJ not to interfere with states setting their own marijuana laws.
And Obama is a corporate centrist not a leftist.
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Old 01-13-2015, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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Last time I checked Obama ordered the DOJ not to interfere with states setting their own marijuana laws.
And Obama is a corporate centrist not a leftist.


I live in Denver and have not been murdered, robbed, or assaulted since legalization. So there you go!

Denver is actually a fairly safe city compared to similarly-sized cities.
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Old 01-13-2015, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Last time I checked Obama ordered the DOJ not to interfere with states setting their own marijuana laws.
And Obama is a corporate centrist not a leftist.
Actually, Obama is socially very conservative. And he is still fighting the war on drugs.

Here's How Obama Plans to Spend $25 Billion on the War on Drugs - NationalJournal.com

And DOJ cannot stop states from setting their own marijuana laws. But they can and still do harass marijuana companies using their power over federal banks. Google it.
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Old 01-13-2015, 03:52 PM
 
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Actually, Obama is socially very conservative. And he is still fighting the war on drugs.

Here's How Obama Plans to Spend $25 Billion on the War on Drugs - NationalJournal.com

And DOJ cannot stop states from setting their own marijuana laws. But they can and still do harass marijuana companies using their power over federal banks. Google it.

But the thread is about pot not all drugs. Under Obama there is no war on pot.
I don't know anyone who wants all drugs to be legal anyways except maybe libertarians.
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Old 01-13-2015, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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But the thread is about pot not all drugs. Under Obama there is no war on pot.
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Yes, there is a war on pot. Federal banks will not take cash from marijuana outlets. Obama is still at war with pot.


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/12/us...-not.html?_r=0
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Old 01-13-2015, 04:34 PM
 
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Yes, there is a war on pot. Federal banks will not take cash from marijuana outlets. Obama is still at war with pot.


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/12/us...-not.html?_r=0

Federal banks don't deal with private businesses so I don't know what you're talking about.
They only deal with other banks.
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Old 01-13-2015, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Federal banks don't deal with private businesses so I don't know what you're talking about.
They only deal with other banks.
Since you refuse to read the facts as outlined in my link, I'll help you.

"As a result, banks, including state-chartered ones, are reluctant to provide traditional services to marijuana businesses. They fear that federal regulators and law enforcement authorities might punish them, with measures like large fines, for violating prohibitions on money-laundering, among other federal laws and regulations."

That's a big part of Obama's war on drugs.
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Old 01-13-2015, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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More of Obama's war on pot:



But the financial institutions eventually shut down many of these accounts after managers conclude the businesses are too much of a risk. It is not unusual for a legitimate marijuana business to go through a half-dozen bank accounts in a few years. While they are active, however, these accounts may have informal restrictions placed on them — some self-imposed — so they do not draw the scrutiny of bankers who may file suspicious-activity reports or would be required to report deposits over $10,000 in cash. The account holders may make only small deposits, and only at night and at certain branches. Mr. Kunkel of Seattle has such an account.

At the largest credit union in Washington State, BECU, about 20 accounts have been shut down in the last three years after it was discovered they were for businesses in the legal marijuana trade, Todd Pietzsch, a spokesman for the credit union, said.
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Old 01-13-2015, 06:03 PM
 
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When Colorado legalized weed more than a year ago, opponents of the move warned that crime would rise. But half a year after the first sales of recreational marijuana began, the state's biggest city has yet to see an increase in criminal activity.

During the first six months of 2014, violent crime in the city and county of Denver was down 3 percent from the same period in 2013, according to the most recent available data. Three of the four main categories of violent crime that are tracked in the data -- homicide, sexual assault and robbery -- are all down from the same six-month stretch last year. Aggravated assault, the fourth category, is up 2.2 percent.

Burglaries and robberies at the city's dispensaries of medical and/or recreational marijuana are on track to hit a three-year low, according to a separate report from Denver's Department of Safety, first reported by The Denver Post.

Overall, property crime in the city is down by more than 11 percent from the same six-month period of 2013.

If Legalizing Marijuana Was Supposed To Cause More Crime, It's Not Doing A Very Good Job
What about the Homeless rate? Not so good .
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Old 01-13-2015, 06:40 PM
 
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What about the Homeless rate? Not so good .
Sheesh.....so the crime argument has completely failed, lets pick a new one?

Even more entertaining is that the complaint is that homeless people are going to Denver because pot is legal....The obvious solution is to either help the homeless, or make it legal everywhere so that Colorado isn't special.
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