Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
"Nasa climate scientists: We said 2014 was the warmest year on record... but we're only 38% sure we were right"
Nasa admited it is now far from certain that 2014 set a record at all.
Nasa failed to mention the fact that the alleged ‘record’ amounted to an increase over 2010, the previous ‘warmest year’, of just two-hundredths of a degree – or 0.02C. The margin of error is said by scientists to be approximately 0.1C – several times as much.
As a result, GISS’s director Gavin Schmidt has now admitted Nasa thinks the likelihood that 2014 was the warmest year since 1880 is just 38 per cent. However, when asked by this newspaper whether he regretted that the news release did not mention this, he did not respond.
"Nasa climate scientists: We said 2014 was the warmest year on record... but we're only 38% sure we were right"
Nasa admited it is now far from certain that 2014 set a record at all.
Nasa failed to mention the fact that the alleged ‘record’ amounted to an increase over 2010, the previous ‘warmest year’, of just two-hundredths of a degree – or 0.02C. The margin of error is said by scientists to be approximately 0.1C – several times as much.
As a result, GISS’s director Gavin Schmidt has now admitted Nasa thinks the likelihood that 2014 was the warmest year since 1880 is just 38 per cent. However, when asked by this newspaper whether he regretted that the news release did not mention this, he did not respond.
The daily mail seems to be a major source of AGW denier's mis-information, so I think I will put this post in my junk file.
OMG - a DENIER.
Do you dispute the claims made?
NO.
You merely refuse to accept them, because they challenge YOUR belief system.
How unscientific - !
. . .
Two possibilities :
1. NASA data was incorrectly reported due to statistical variation, or
2. NASA data was correctly reported.
. . .
#1 : NASA says "oops."
The American Petroleum Institute now acknowledges that AGW is real as do many conservatives. You need to start getting with the program and debating solutions rather than the discredited notion of whether AGW is occurring.
The American Petroleum Institute now acknowledges that AGW is real as do many conservatives. You need to start getting with the program and debating solutions rather than the discredited notion of whether AGW is occurring.
The API isn't the topic. Nasa's claim was the topic and its retraction of a sensational, erroneous, widely published assertion.
The API isn't the topic. Nasa's claim was the topic and its retraction of a sensational, erroneous, widely published assertion.
You do realize that a margin of error works both ways, right? For recent years the GISS margin of error for global annual means is about ±0.05°C, so it could have been that much warmer
Some of the top climate scientists have emphasized that the year-to-year variations matter less than the background trend. This has been made clear by record-warm years that have happened over the past 15 years without the help of a strong El Nino.
You do realize that a margin of error works both ways, right?
Some of the top climate scientists have emphasized that the year-to-year variations matter less than the background trend. This has been made clear by record-warm years that have happened over the past 15 years without the help of a strong El Nino.
Dr. Jennifer Francis of Rutgers University said with the margin of error it doesn't matter as much if 2014 was the warmest or second, third or sixth - what matters is that there is a "clear, consistent and incontrovertible" warming of Earth. NASA and NOAA Confirm that 2014 was the Warmest Year on Record - Climate Change Weather Blog
What do you not understand about a scientific probability of 38%? Basic Science 101, sans.
The API isn't the topic. Nasa's claim was the topic and its retraction of a sensational, erroneous, widely published assertion.
Do we really need an entire thread dedicated to this?
And way to pile on the nasty adjectives to emphasize just how horrific it is that this might very well be only the second or (gasp!) third warmest year in recorded history. I guess that means global warming is over!
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
