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Old 01-22-2015, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Originally Posted by Iamme73 View Post
You can't read for comprehension.


But I'll give you another chance.

Netanyahu wrote an Wall Street journal oped way back in the distant past of 2002 about how invading Iraq was the right thing to do. That op Ed was full of stupid and misinformation.


In fact, at the time one of the many, many, many, many reasons given not to destroy Iraq was that it would strengthen Iran and its nuclear program.

See the people against the war were 100% right.

And conservatives like Netanyahu got nothing right about the disastrous war in Iraq and as such he has zero credibility on Iran, when recent history proves his idiotic support for the war in Iraq led directly to Iran getting stronger in the region as was predicted before the war in Iraq.

In fact at that time Netanyahu was running around saying the same stupid and wrong stuff about Iraq. How Sadaam was imminently close to getting a nuclear weapon, how Iraq had never stopped its nuclear weapons program.

Both of those idiotic Netanyahu statements we're proven wrong by reality.
You have yet answered my question. What information do you hold that Israeli intelligence does not? What is your intellectual examination about Iran's hegemonic goals in the ME?

Israel's interest in the fall of Saddam is much different than the United States, what do we not understand? At least the "hawkish" Israeli's were honest about why they wanted this dictators leadership to collapse.

But we are talking about Iran, and this "hawkish" Israeli leader is one of the most cautious leaders in Israeli history. And lets quit with junk about the Right politics of Israel because the leftist doves in Israel will neither tolerate a nuclear Iran.

But at the end of the day, the world is a little bit safer thanks to the Israeli air force for destroying the Iraqi nuclear program, which the U.S was sitting idle. You have created a fallacy, [ My logical interpretation of this event happened, then therefor, this person is also wrong about a totally different event].

So please share this fascinating intelligence that you acquire that dismisses Irans nuclear program. And lets not forget, your not a prime minister of a country that Iran has threatened genocide for decades.
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Old 01-22-2015, 01:49 PM
 
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Iran is ZERO threat to this country....with or without nukes.
ZERO threat? Are you saying there is no possible way ever that Iran would assist a terrorist group with a nuke in a ship in New York harbor?
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Old 01-22-2015, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Control of congress or of the white house, which is what we have.

In addition, you just know that if anything positive comes of this visit Obama will claim credit for it. That is what he does.
This visit is really not that serious. Its just a thread for the anti Israel stronk crew to weep over its existence.

If anything positive comes out of this, it will be Israel making a decisive action against Iran's program, while enduring all the repercussions and blowback, not America.
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Old 01-22-2015, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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These folks just have the biggest deathwish in history.

Couldn't subdue Iraq...a smaller country with 25 million people...

But think that they can somehow make the Iranians bow down...a huge nation of 75 million people, far larger and more mountainous than Iraq, and full of people that will take up the gun and fight back. Not to mention that every jihadist fanatic will show up on the battlefield to take us on and try to humiliate us.

You'll only make moderate Iranians MORE fanatical. And no U.S. asset in the Middle East and Europe would be safe from attack. Hezbollah would quadruple its ranks if not more. Israel would be far less safer as a result.

Leave Iran alone. That's a hornet's nest that you don't want to stir up. If you think differently, you're not using your head.

Short of a nuke, we can't defeat Iran...and neither can Israel. Wake the hell up people.
One again we are pretending to ignore:

A) Iran has expressed open genocide on the country of Israel. A threat that Israel will not take lightly.

B) Iran's sponsorship of terrorism against Israeli's and Israeli's abroad, as well as Americans.

C) Iran's funding of proxy organizations that have killed Israeli's, period.

D) Iran's nuclear program is illegal according to the IAEA, and will bring even more stability to the region.
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Old 01-22-2015, 01:57 PM
 
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ZERO threat? Are you saying there is no possible way ever that Iran would assist a terrorist group with a nuke in a ship in New York harbor?
It's possible that you could get a date with Jennifer Aniston.

Is it probable.? Hell to the no.
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Old 01-22-2015, 02:36 PM
 
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It's possible that you could get a date with Jennifer Aniston.

Is it probable.? Hell to the no.
Maybe you shouldn't say ZERO chance then.
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Old 01-22-2015, 02:39 PM
 
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One again we are pretending to ignore:

A) Iran has expressed open genocide on the country of Israel. A threat that Israel will not take lightly.

B) Iran's sponsorship of terrorism against Israeli's and Israeli's abroad, as well as Americans.

C) Iran's funding of proxy organizations that have killed Israeli's, period.

D) Iran's nuclear program is illegal according to the IAEA, and will bring even more stability to the region.
I'm not from Israel.

I only care about the United States.
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Maybe you shouldn't say ZERO chance then.
Nah...I like zero.
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Old 01-22-2015, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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ZERO threat? Are you saying there is no possible way ever that Iran would assist a terrorist group with a nuke in a ship in New York harbor?
There is as much a non-zero threat of Israel doing that, and blame someone else for it.

Hence, no boot licking of anybody please. Thank you.
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Old 01-22-2015, 03:31 PM
 
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You have yet answered my question. What information do you hold that Israeli intelligence does not? What is your intellectual examination about Iran's hegemonic goals in the ME?

Israel's interest in the fall of Saddam is much different than the United States, what do we not understand? At least the "hawkish" Israeli's were honest about why they wanted this dictators leadership to collapse.

But we are talking about Iran, and this "hawkish" Israeli leader is one of the most cautious leaders in Israeli history. And lets quit with junk about the Right politics of Israel because the leftist doves in Israel will neither tolerate a nuclear Iran.

But at the end of the day, the world is a little bit safer thanks to the Israeli air force for destroying the Iraqi nuclear program, which the U.S was sitting idle. You have created a fallacy, [ My logical interpretation of this event happened, then therefor, this person is also wrong about a totally different event].

So please share this fascinating intelligence that you acquire that dismisses Irans nuclear program. And lets not forget, your not a prime minister of a country that Iran has threatened genocide for decades.
You can't read for comprehension. The only thing I have posted about Iran's nuclear program is that liberals against the war in Iraq stated waaaaaayyyyyyyyyy back in the super distant past of 2002, that destroying Iraq would strengthen Iran and its nuclear program.

My point remains, that Netanyahu and conservatives as well were both demonstrably wrong about everything concerning the Iraq war.

Anyone can read netanyahu's op ed, anyone can listen to his talk in front of congress and the man was full of stupid and misinformation concerning Iraq.

He said Iraq was imminently about the get nuclear weapons, this was completely wrong. He said Iraq had never stopped its nuclear program, this was completely wrong. He said war in Iraq would be positive for the region, wrong.

Finally Netanyahu and conservatives insisted that war in Iraq wouldn't strengthen Iran or its nuclear program. They were wrong.


Netanyahu and conservatives have zero credibility in taking about Iran when they were proven by objective reality to be so completely wrong about Iraq and the impact the Iraq war would have in the world.
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Old 01-22-2015, 03:53 PM
 
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I saw Netanyahu being interviewed long ago, everything he tried warned about is coming true. No wonder Obama wants to ignore him.
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