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Old 01-25-2015, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, Ga
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Go and move to communist cuba
Why? Their system is not any better. Communism is not the solution.
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Old 01-25-2015, 07:19 PM
 
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I'm still trying to figure out where you heard Christians don't perceive being gay as a sin. Hell in one state right now they're trying to find every way they can to keep them from marrying, including making the only legal marriage one performed by ministers and stating that if you marry a gay couple then you'll lose your job.

your anti Christian, you have a catholic right in front of you telling you that he and the vast majority of Christians support homosexuality
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Old 01-25-2015, 07:20 PM
 
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Why? Their system is not any better. Communism is not the solution.
go start unionism then
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Old 01-25-2015, 07:24 PM
 
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what makes Hillary so great anyway ?
Hillary isn't great, IMO. Actually, I don't like her at all. I doubt I'd ever vote for her. But if the Republicans don't get a grip on the crazy, I won't be voting for them, either. We have a "none of the above" ballot option here. It's somewhat popular.
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Old 01-25-2015, 07:25 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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we were there to protect Iraqi civilians and to stop the spread of extremism

You gonna send someones son, daughter, husband or wife, to fight someone elses war? No thank you. My dad did that in Vietnam and he had to kill a lot of innocent people. People that never ever attacked our nation, just to fight someone elses war. It messed with his mind for years.
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Old 01-25-2015, 07:36 PM
 
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You gonna send someones son, daughter, husband or wife, to fight someone elses war? No thank you. My dad did that in Vietnam and he had to kill a lot of innocent people. People that never ever attacked our nation, just to fight someone elses war. It messed with his mind for years.
Agreed, and that's the true meaning of "support the troops." Short, directed campaigns can succeed, however, as Bush Sr. did in Kuwait, and Clinton did in Kosovo. Get in, win, get out. Where were those darn WMDs, anyway?
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Old 01-25-2015, 07:54 PM
 
Location: sumter
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Nope, USA has the largest economy in the world, largest GDP

more people ? - why is this a good thing ?
china has more than 400,000,000 people living in poverty
The USA is number one in many areas still. By a long shot, we have the world largest military budget, breweries, many of the world's largest high tech corporations are in Silicon Valley, world largest retailer in walmart, the dollar is the world most traded currency, and the list goes on. Yes, we lost the number one spot in some areas but still lead in many others.
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Old 01-25-2015, 07:57 PM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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The Republicans are most likely going to win in 2016, the recent gains they have had show that they have a hold over the democrats

who do you think they will elect for president ?

i think it will be Mitt Romney, with Marco Rubio as VP
Big deal, the Tea Party took Congress in 2010. So how well did that work out for 'em in 2012…?
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Old 01-25-2015, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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spot on

if the USA still had the same demographics as it did in 1940, 90% white

There would be no way in hell that the democrats would manage a victory
The only reason the USA was 90% white in 1940 was because they didn't count any of the Hispanics living and working in the Southwest.
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Old 01-25-2015, 09:43 PM
 
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The Republicans are most likely going to win in 2016, the recent gains they have had show that they have a hold over the democrats

who do you think they will elect for president ?

i think it will be Mitt Romney, with Marco Rubio as VP
Success in off-year elections is not an accurate predictor of the next Presidential election because the makeup of their electorates are very different. Off-year election turnout is relatively small and the voters are older and whiter on average than those that show up in Presidential years. The average white voter was 42 in 2012, with Asians averaging 35, blacks about 33 and Hispanics nearly 15 years younger than whites on average (27.6). Between 50,000 and 60,000 young Hispanics reach voting age each month with the vast majority being citizens. Eventually, Hispanics are projected to total 40% of the nation's population. While you can't say with certitude how many of these potential new voters will vote, or how they will vote, Hispanics have historically favored Democrats by 3-1.

In 2006 whites accounted for 79% of the total vote
In the 2008 POTUS election, 74% of the votes were cast by whites (-5 from previous off-year election)
in the 2010 election, whites accounted for 77% (+3 from the last POTUS, but -2 from the latest off-year)
In the 2012 POTUS election, 72% were white (-5 from the most recent off-year election; -2 from last POTUS)
In the 2014 election, 75% of voters were white (+3 from the last POTUS but -2 from the most recent off-year)

If the pattern continues, we can expect an electorate in 2016 that is 70% white, 2% less than 2012 and 5% less than the 2014 off-year election. In 2018, an off year +3 boost would take the white turnout to 73%, with the rate falling -5 in the 2020 election to 68%, unlikely to ever again top 70% in either cycle.

Can a Republican buck this trend in 2016? Sure, but they have to figure out how to win in the 12-14 states that are contestable, and more appear to be trending away from the GOP than are trending towards it, and the white voters who comprise 88 or 89% of their voters are falling by about 2% in every election, whether POTUS or off-year.

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