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Old 02-05-2015, 04:27 PM
 
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Not sure how this is "bypassing the president", if the invitation came from a co-equal branch of government, and, apparently, the administration was informed before accepting the invitation.
Because the branchs arent really completely co-equal. The president doesn't have an equal say on a budget (the presidential budget is fiction, and unused). Maybe you should study the term "separation of powers".

And being informed at the last minute that "hey I am going to go behind you and try and influence this with a speech to your congress" doesn't make it better. Its cheap theatre that will damage our relationship.

 
Old 02-05-2015, 04:57 PM
 
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Uhmmm no....the core issue is that Isreal's leadership is getting involved in our internal politics, and trying to undermine our leadership. Can you imagine the outrage if Obama returned the favor?
This is an example where Lincoln's advice about keeping quiet and not proving anything should be adhered to...a few weeks ago, obama had David Cameron call congressmen and senators to press them RE: the sanctions. I guess we don't need to imagine - he did.
 
Old 02-05-2015, 05:05 PM
 
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And being informed at the last minute that "hey I am going to go behind you and try and influence this with a speech to your congress" doesn't make it better. Its cheap theatre that will damage our relationship.
Uh, how do you know that he was informed "at the last moment"? Perhaps he had months of notice, or do you just assume king obama is always correct, about all things, all the time, every day?
 
Old 02-05-2015, 05:19 PM
 
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This is an example where Lincoln's advice about keeping quiet and not proving anything should be adhered to...a few weeks ago, obama had David Cameron call congressmen and senators to press them RE: the sanctions. I guess we don't need to imagine - he did.
Also a amazingly bad thing in my opinion.
 
Old 02-05-2015, 05:20 PM
 
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Uh, how do you know that he was informed "at the last moment"? Perhaps he had months of notice, or do you just assume king obama is always correct, about all things, all the time, every day?
Because thats been repeatedly stated by all involved.

Dont let your blind hatred of Obama blind you to reality.
 
Old 02-05-2015, 06:17 PM
 
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Breaking: NYT Admits Obama Deliberately Manufactured Netanyahu Spat | Rob Miller | The Blogs | The Times of Israel

"Breaking: NYT Admits Obama Deliberately Manufactured Netanyahu Spat"

"Correction: January 30, 2015
An earlier version of this article misstated when Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel accepted Speaker John A. Boehner’s invitation to address Congress. He accepted after the administration had been informed of the invitation, not before."

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What a shock, obama the awful manufactured this whole situation to make netanyahu and israel look bad, and obama PR/propaganda machine AKA the dreadful NY Times drove this message like a good lap dog - until they got exposed.

The removal of these two disgusting, lying, and despicable entities from this planet (obama and the NYT) cannot happen soon enough.
I had heard this last week, that Boehner informed the White house the day before he spoke to Netanyahu.
 
Old 02-05-2015, 06:25 PM
 
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Sorry but again, bypassing the president on this, and going to congress is in fact getting involved in our internal politics no matter how you try to spin it or wordsmith it. Please stop being intentionally obtuse. It does you no credit.

Yes.

Actually I was a bit more offended by that one in some ways.
So what was it but internal interference, when 0bama had British Prime Minister David Cameron speak to the senate?

January 16, 2015: UK's David Cameron is phoning Senators about Iran sanctions bill - CBS News

British Prime Minister David Cameron is appealing directly to some senators in the U.S. Congress to reconsider a bill that would open up the possibility of new sanctions against Iran.
 
Old 02-05-2015, 06:31 PM
 
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NYT is a disgraceful rag, and obama manufactured the netanyahu crisis
LOL, So, now it has been upgraded to "crises".
 
Old 02-05-2015, 08:14 PM
 
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A manufactured crisis? Nah. It's a political stunt produced by Boehner.

No crisis. Just a stunt. I certainly hope as many people as possible boycott it. This one is going to be a loser for the House GOP.
 
Old 02-06-2015, 06:05 AM
 
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Uhmmm no....the core issue is that Isreal's leadership is getting involved in our internal politics, and trying to undermine our leadership.

Can you imagine the outrage if Obama returned the favor?
Obama's shocking interference into Israel's election process - Blogs - Jerusalem Post
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