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Bloomberg claimed that 95 percent of murders fall into a specific category: male, minority and between the ages of 15 and 25.* Cities need to get guns out of this group’s hands and keep them alive, he said.
Bloomberg is speaking in half truths. It's not minorities in general but people from specific minority groups that commit most of the murders and gun crimes.
96.5 percent of those arrested for shootings in New York City in 2013 were black or Hispanic.
The record shows that 1.3 percent (2008), 1.4 percent (2009), 1.4 (2010), 2.5 (2011), and 2.4 (2012) of the arrested suspects in shootings (defined as any crime where the victim is struck with a bullet) in New York City were white.
During that same time, 78.3 percent (2008), 79.8 percent (2009), 74.2 (2010), 72.5 (2011), and 78.2 (2012), of the arrested suspects in shootings were black.
And during that same time, 18.3 percent (2008), 19.9 percent (2009), 23.3 (2010), 23.9 (2011), and 18.9 (2012) of the arrested suspects in shootings were Hispanic.
Bloomberg is speaking in half truths. It's not minorities in general but people from specific minority groups that commit most of the murders and gun crimes.
96.5 percent of those arrested for shootings in New York City in 2013 were black or Hispanic.
The record shows that 1.3 percent (2008), 1.4 percent (2009), 1.4 (2010), 2.5 (2011), and 2.4 (2012) of the arrested suspects in shootings (defined as any crime where the victim is struck with a bullet) in New York City were white.
During that same time, 78.3 percent (2008), 79.8 percent (2009), 74.2 (2010), 72.5 (2011), and 78.2 (2012), of the arrested suspects in shootings were black.
And during that same time, 18.3 percent (2008), 19.9 percent (2009), 23.3 (2010), 23.9 (2011), and 18.9 (2012) of the arrested suspects in shootings were Hispanic.
One thing about idle hands. They make for alot of time to get into trouble. Most of the persons within the Black population who are committing murder often do not work, and many don't have the skills to hold a job.
Furthermore, about the jobs, there is one theory I have come up with. I would say many politicians won't invest in jobs for this reason: short term thinking. I will explain below.
Funding a prison might take up tax dollars. However, in the short term, it is cheaper. It is cheaper in the short term to fund prisons because you don't really have to pay prison labor much, if it at. Prison labor is cheap labor. It's considered short term cheaper to have prisoners do the labor than to actually pay law-abiding citizens.
There is something else to address, and this is a major root of the problem: I hate quoting rappers, but in the words of Eminem "Where were the parents at"? This is one thing I respect Mayor Nutter of Philadelphia for touching on in his speech. He pretty much said "either the parents need to do their jobs, or the law will". Very often, with these murders, you have young males who grow up with no father(many don't know who their father is), and the mother isn't really doing her job either.
Another issue to consider. The mentality of "either you respect me or you die". That is one major hallmark of gang mentality, and of hood rat mentality. This feeling of being "dissed" or being "disrespected" and the feeling of having to respond with violence.
And here is another issue. Some people get murdered over things like shoes. The mentality of "i want something you have, so I'm killing you over it, or at least mugging you for it".
Joblessness is a big contributing factor. I agree with that. Other issues also include a violent mentality, valuing material things over people, and the parents not doing their job. Banning Blacks from having guns won't stop any of that. It doesn't address the root of the problem, and it violates Constitutional rights.
Agreed tho it ain't just a "Black" thing. Pretty much everything you said goes for very low class anglo white, "Hispanic" and American Indian people too.
White people have been murdering 54% more since 2008. Whites are evil!
Ha ha ha. That'd be like my saying ALL Black people are evil. Most ain't. Tho with anglo whites: some of us are more likely to do stupid stuff than others; like "my" people, the Irish, 100 years ago. Tho it's probably another group of "ethnic" whites doing the deed in NYC in 2015.
Bloomberg is speaking in half truths. It's not minorities in general but people from specific minority groups that commit most of the murders and gun crimes.
96.5 percent of those arrested for shootings in New York City in 2013 were black or Hispanic.
The record shows that 1.3 percent (2008), 1.4 percent (2009), 1.4 (2010), 2.5 (2011), and 2.4 (2012) of the arrested suspects in shootings (defined as any crime where the victim is struck with a bullet) in New York City were white.
During that same time, 78.3 percent (2008), 79.8 percent (2009), 74.2 (2010), 72.5 (2011), and 78.2 (2012), of the arrested suspects in shootings were black.
And during that same time, 18.3 percent (2008), 19.9 percent (2009), 23.3 (2010), 23.9 (2011), and 18.9 (2012) of the arrested suspects in shootings were Hispanic.
The statistics are nothing new. I pretty much figure Bloomberg is just a hack. However, this is the concern I have. Anyone who suggest that a certain race/ethnicity of people should be denied a certain Constitutional right, I have a problem with that. If someone advocates for that, then I would like to see how that person would feel having it applied to them.
Agreed tho it ain't just a "Black" thing. Pretty much everything you said goes for very low class anglo white, "Hispanic" and American Indian people too.
It isn't just a "black thing", I get that. For this discussion, it was talking about Blacks. I figured I would offer a critique of what takes place among the underclass segment of the Black population, and the variables of why murders are taking place.
Bloomberg won't rest until all of us plebeians, white, black or otherwise, are mere serfs serving our billionaire lords like Bloomberg. He has zero respect for anyone's right but his.
Another "If a conservative had said this..." moment brought to you by the MSM.
Of course what does Bloomberg care about anyone else, he has something like 16 NYPD retired officers who can carry around the city with standard capacity magazines (instead of being limited to 5 like everyone else) guarding him.
Another "If a conservative had said this..." moment brought to you by the MSM.
Of course what does Bloomberg care about anyone else, he has something like 16 NYPD retired officers who can carry around the city with standard capacity magazines (instead of being limited to 5 like everyone else) guarding him.
just another item that should be made illegal for bloomberg......no private security.
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