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Old 02-16-2015, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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That's exactly what I was thinking. My niece earned an engineering degree and topped it off with an MBA with a concentration in global supply chain management. Got a $100K job right out of school with summer internships being her only job experience in her field.

If those with college degrees (and some of them even advanced) are only getting $8-12 per hour, they've made some bad decisions about their field of study and whether the knowledge and skills they'd acquire would have a decent market value.
Global Supply Chain Management is a management specialist in out sourcing and moving business activities from the USA to another place where due to one or more factors it is cheaper to do that business activity there rather than in the USA. These are the people who destroy American jobs and end American dreams! Do we really want more of such people?
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Old 02-16-2015, 10:34 PM
 
Location: NJ
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SCM has played a key role in strengthening corps. We need as many of them as we can train well. It's critical we run corps profitably.
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Old 02-16-2015, 10:43 PM
 
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That's exactly what I was thinking. My niece earned an engineering degree and topped it off with an MBA with a concentration in global supply chain management. Got a $100K job right out of school with summer internships being her only job experience in her field.

If those with college degrees (and some of them even advanced) are only getting $8-12 per hour, they've made some bad decisions about their field of study and whether the knowledge and skills they'd acquire would have a decent market value.


Not everyone is a math and science major. It's like being a robot. They have no creativity. We need the liberal arts people who actually are creative. They know how to read, write, draw, paint, research. What a dreary planet this would be with the only the teck people. Can your niece write an intelligent fifty page report on what's going on in the middle east.
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Old 02-16-2015, 10:46 PM
 
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freemkt"70,000 jobs or even a gazillion jobs are useless to those who lack the required skills and/or have no way to get to the job."

Wrong, someone will get the job, and find it useful.



A person without the required skills will not get the job.

A person who has no way to get to the workplace will not get the job.
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Old 02-16-2015, 11:39 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Not everyone is a math and science major. It's like being a robot. They have no creativity. We need the liberal arts people who actually are creative. They know how to read, write, draw, paint, research. What a dreary planet this would be with the only the teck people. Can your niece write an intelligent fifty page report on what's going on in the middle east.
I beg to differ.

New technology IS being creative.

If there were no creativity in technology you'd still be typing green on a black screen and only have text available to you.
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Old 02-16-2015, 11:48 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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In 2012, Eric Auld, an unemployed 26-year-old with a master’s degree in English, created a fake job ad for an administrative assistant, paying $12-13/hr. He received 653 responses in 24 hours... 3% had master’s degrees.

No Demand for Skilled Jobs:
ok...he received 650+ applicants for an advertised job


let's look at who he is and WHY...

unemployed., with a masters degree

but what is his degree in.....English

so the only thing his degree will get him is a teaching job, or a librarian...and both REQUIRE additional certifications

so having a masters degree,...means nothing if you choose to get it in a tiny field opportunity
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Old 02-16-2015, 11:51 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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A person without the required skills will not get the job.

A person who has no way to get to the workplace will not get the job.
He's right and you(bobtn) even talked about it when taking about a person let go isn't going to be a top prospect even if they weren't the problem but the company was.
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Old 02-16-2015, 11:56 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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Not everyone is a math and science major. It's like being a robot. They have no creativity. We need the liberal arts people who actually are creative. They know how to read, write, draw, paint, research. What a dreary planet this would be with the only the teck people. Can your niece write an intelligent fifty page report on what's going on in the middle east.
You really have no understanding that top flight scientists , mathematicians and engineers are just as creative as any artist writer or performer. These are the people who fill in the blanks in our collective ignorance and see patterns and relationships were none were seen before, Where do they get these leaps of imagination? A world class scientist (and I am not unknown in scientific circles here but overseas) has edited an encyclopedia, written 120 papers, 20 US and foreign patents, written 3 book chapters and a 350 page Ph.D. dissertation. I also have a Phi Beta Kappa key (Penna Lambda chapter (PSU)). One of the greatest scientists who imagines much of the technology that was to be like submarines , helicopters and armored vehicles also pained the Mona Lisa and Einstein also played piano and dabbled in philosophy .
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Old 02-17-2015, 12:01 AM
 
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ok...he received 650+ applicants for an advertised job


let's look at who he is and WHY...

unemployed., with a masters degree

but what is his degree in.....English

so the only thing his degree will get him is a teaching job, or a librarian...and both REQUIRE additional certifications

so having a masters degree,...means nothing if you choose to get it in a tiny field opportunity
You are right. Masters degree here. Public Administration. I chose poorly and trying to get myself in position to better myself has been difficult. Parents told me to get a degree so I did that. No job prospects with the BS so got the Masters. Same deal. Only myself to blame. Didn't know any better.

Just trying to catch on with a big company now in distribution and work my way up. Can't even get an interview, and I spent 3 years as a warehouse manager with a small company.

I will say this. I see people getting lucky with jobs all the time. They knew somebody and boom. Connections help a lot.
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Old 02-17-2015, 06:16 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Engineers are continuing to get laid off while their salaries have been stagnant since 2000.
It depends on which kind. One has to research the demand outlook, and use critical thinking skills to suss what knowledge/skills will be in demand.
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