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Old 02-18-2015, 06:23 AM
 
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Oklahoma bill would make AP U.S. History history - CNN.com

"Some lawmakers in Oklahoma want to make Advanced Placement U.S. History history.
What's their beef? The course, which was redesigned by the College Board and implemented in high school classrooms last year, isn't quite pro-America enough.
"In essence, we have a new emphasis on what is bad about America," said state representative Dan Fisher, the measure's chief sponsor.
"(The new framework) trades an emphasis on America's founding principles of Constitutional government in favor of robust analyses of gender and racial oppression and class ethnicity and the lives of marginalized people, where the emphasis on instruction is of America as a nation of oppressors and exploiters," Fisher lamented at a legislative committee hearing Tuesday.
Not only does HB 1380 -- which sailed through a committee hearing this week -- bar state funds from being used on AP History, the legislation specifies what should be taught in the classroom by specifically identifying dozens of "documents, writings, speeches, proclamations and recordings related to the history, heritage and foundation of the United States" in the 10-page bill.
What did Fisher single out? Old standards such as The Gettysburg Address, Madison's Federalist No. 10 and "Common Sense" by Thomas Paine. The bill doesn't totally avoid what Fisher called America's "blemishes": He included Martin Luther King's "Letter from Birmingham Jail" essay and "I Have a Dream" speech, as well as the "Ballot or the Bullet" speech made by Malcolm X as part of the replacement curriculum.
Fisher, a Republican, also singled out three speeches made by Ronald Reagan and one by George W. Bush as important enough to U.S. history to be added to the new curriculum , but none from from Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, or Jimmy Carter -- the last three Democratic presidents."

Republicans are not only cutting public education to the bone. They now want full control of the curriculum.
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Old 02-18-2015, 06:40 AM
 
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Oklahoma, like its neighbor Kansas, is becoming a crucible of passing bad laws. To see what would happen if radical conservative Republicans take control of the national or state governments just look at Oklahoma and Kansas. The current GOP is anti-education (Kansas, Oklahoma, Wisconsin) unless of course you tow the GOP line view of history.
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Old 02-18-2015, 07:20 AM
 
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Fisher, a Republican, also singled out three speeches made by Ronald Reagan and one by George W. Bush as important enough to U.S. history to be added to the new curriculum , but none from from Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, or Jimmy Carter -- the last three Democratic presidents."
I'm going to assume that the Reagan speeches were related to the cold world, probably the "tear down this wall" speech is in there and I would also assume the Bush speech was related to 9/11. I don't recall any events during the Obama, Clinton or Carter years that even begin to approach the magnitude of those pivotal events.
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Old 02-18-2015, 08:37 AM
 
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Republicans are not only cutting public education to the bone. They now want full control of the curriculum.
How are Republicans cutting public education to the bone? We spend more on education than almost every other country in the world, but are experiencing mediocre results. Maybe funding isn't the problem, but policies and methodology?

Seems you have no problem with guilt-ridden Liberals manipulating US history programs to focus on the negative aspects of this country while downplaying the amazing things America has done. We don't need to create a generation of students who are ashamed to be American because of black marks in our history. Every nation has things its ashamed of, but only the worst of the worst should be defined by those shameful events.

This is how we crank out students who think America is a horrible place for things like the Salem Witch trials because a lot of people (only 19, in reality) were burned at the stake (nobody in Salem was burned at the stake), meanwhile tens of thousands were killed in Europe. They blame the US for things like slavery and racism (which has existed nearly everywhere and still does) and think the only reason the Civil War happened was over slaves. They think Native Americans were peaceful victims of White imperialism, when in reality their tribes were killing each other long before Europeans showed up in North America. Commanches were particularly brutal to their enemies, sometimes burning them alive and slaughtering babies.
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Old 02-18-2015, 08:56 AM
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Republicans are not only cutting public education to the bone. They now want full control of the curriculum.
Next they'll want a chapter on the achievements of Gordon Gekko placed into all history books.
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Old 02-18-2015, 09:02 AM
 
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Next it'll be algebra because Arab and stuff.
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Old 02-18-2015, 09:22 AM
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Next it'll be algebra because Arab and stuff.
Heh good point. Don't let 'em know that the numbers used in mathematics classes are the Western Arabic numerals from the Hindu–Arabic numeral system.

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Old 02-18-2015, 09:26 AM
 
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I'm going to assume that the Reagan speeches were related to the cold world, probably the "tear down this wall" speech is in there and I would also assume the Bush speech was related to 9/11. I don't recall any events during the Obama, Clinton or Carter years that even begin to approach the magnitude of those pivotal events.
Oh hell no

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Old 02-18-2015, 09:28 AM
 
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Michele obama said, 'we have to re-write our history', her promise becomes reality. Who can object without being criticized.

Didn't raise an eyebrow in the propaganda media. that was an historical moment.
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Old 02-18-2015, 09:30 AM
 
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I'm going to assume that the Reagan speeches were related to the cold world, probably the "tear down this wall" speech is in there and I would also assume the Bush speech was related to 9/11. I don't recall any events during the Obama, Clinton or Carter years that even begin to approach the magnitude of those pivotal events.
What about "I did not have sex with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky".

That was kinda pivotal.
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