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If "art" is subjective, and it is, and if the judges of "art" are all white, then its possible that what is considered as "art" to blacks does not get represented or rewarded in such a construct. Then you cry.....why do black people need a "black Oscar" award?
But you are saying because they are black they deserve to win. If this group voted last year to nominate "12 years a slave" but not "Selma" this year, how are they discriminating against black movies???
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He is a she and she has every right to state an opinion, if that is okay with you??
My argument is not whether or not she has the right to make that opinion public,but rather having the ability to tell whether or not that opinion makes a difference.
Her opinion changed nothing and did not put forth any better incite into the situation.
There are people who disagree with her on the "artisticness" of the film, does that make her wrong ? absolutely not, which is why what she said didnt matter, its an opinion.
Now, if she had said " people in the academy specifically told me to vote for it just because black people were in it", then she would have a point.
And further more, her argument was that it was offensive for the cast to wear those shirts to the premiere, but that doesnt even make sense unless she just disagrees with the act on an ideological level and has nothing to do with whether or not the movie was good. She sounds like she was venting.
But you are saying because they are black they deserve to win. If this group voted last year to nominate "12 years a slave" but not "Selma" this year, how are they discriminating against black movies???
It's not the fact that the movie is black that is at issue....at the end of the 12 year a slave story, the black slave was at the end saved by white folks who came and rescued him. What I am saying is that black stories without white hero's do not often win awards. To me Selma was more powerful than "12 years a slave" and the acting was better....but there was no white hero. Blacks were the hero's.
If "art" is subjective, and it is, and if the judges of "art" are all white, then its possible that what is considered as "art" to blacks does not get represented or rewarded in such a construct. Then you cry.....why do black people need a "black Oscar" award?
So your for separate but equal. No one stopping that as seen by what is already done. But then do not start on Asian when they break thru to top.
But you are saying because they are black they deserve to win. If this group voted last year to nominate "12 years a slave" but not "Selma" this year, how are they discriminating against black movies???
And 'Ray' and 'The Color Purple' and probably a number of Spike Lee films too.
Hollywood has pushed Affirmative Action on the rest of the USA for the last 50 years but now complains when it comes back to bite them on their collective asses.
They got their cake, so it's time for them to eat some. IMO, they should just put a racial quota on the academy awards for the black race. Problem solved.
(sounds as if it's a mediocre movie, lacking any depth, but that really doesn't matter at all)
All the movie needed to do to add "art" is to have a white hero save the downtrodden Negroes at the end of the day, or to have blacks portrayed in a manner that look like they were their own worst enemies and their you have the making of "Art".
"Only hillbillies can be racist! I'm a wealthy white person, I'm above racism. It's just that this movie didn't have any artistic relevance that I, a wealthy white person, appreciated."
If "art" is subjective, and it is, and if the judges of "art" are all white, then its possible that what is considered as "art" to blacks does not get represented or rewarded in such a construct. Then you cry.....why do black people need a "black Oscar" award?
Blacks do get nominated and they do win. Okay be not as often as big Al would like, but they do.
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