The only country in the western world with a center-left party that doesn't see "illegal immigrants" as illegal?

[Crossfire600]

Originally Posted by camaro69

Dems look at illegals as future dems voters.

Your right and it's just that simple and the ONLY reason. I'm buying popcorn and watching African Americans and the poor fade into oblivion once liberals start fawning over the illegal vote.. LMAO!

[mountainrose]

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[Oldglory]

Originally Posted by Lyndarn

I'm sensing a rather broad brush /disregarding of History with Op's far reaching opinion of Immigration Issues and somehow use that same broad brush to suggest it's ALL on Centre Left ( which politically astute would know mean's Liberal)..Historically...there are a few facts....that no changes have been made to Immigration Laws since 1990..and George W tried during his tenure..and failed..meanwhile present Potus has deported more than any previous Presidents.

My question is..Why can't Congress get with Updating Regulations/Rules surrounding Immigration??? All I have heard for past decades is Immigrants get lumped into Illegal Status by Political rhetoric..yet have absolutely NO remedy to deal with it...After decade+ of listening to complaints and blame games going on..I wish something can be done...

Here's a link that points out the reasons for deferments..It's because it's far more complicated than just yelling about Illegals...USA is a Country founded on Immigrants..Population is made up of ancestral immigrants, except of original habitants, who welcomed new foreigners..and eventually got booted from their lands....I sure wish there was a little more attention addressing historical facts..

Immigration in the United States: New Economic, Social, Political Landscapes with Legislative Reform on the Horizon | migrationpolicy.org
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For a nation of immigrants and immigration, the United States adjusts its immigration policies only rarely, largely because the politics surrounding immigration can be deeply divisive. As a result, immigration policy has often been increasingly disconnected from the economic and social forces that drive immigration. When changes have been made, they have generally taken years to legislate.

Today, the United States may be on the threshold of major new reforms that would address longstanding problems of illegal immigration, as well as those in the legal immigration system, which has not been updated since 1990. The impetus for comprehensive immigration reform (CIR) has returned to the congressional stage, with bipartisan groups in the House and Senate engaged in significant negotiations to craft legislation that would increase enforcement at the nation's borders and interiors, legalize the nation’s estimated 11 million unauthorized immigrants, and provide legal avenues for employers in the United States to access future workers they need. CIR, in one form or another, has been under consideration since at least 2001, with major debates in the Senate in 2006 and 2007. After the failure of CIR legislation in the Senate in 2007, the effort to reform the nation's immigration laws was sidelined. The results and voting patterns of the 2012 presidential election gave both political parties new reasons to revisit an immigration reform agenda.

You simply cannot compare the past to the present in regards to the need for immigrants. Once we were a wide open frontier, sparsely populated with plentiful jobs and resources. Not so today it is entirely different so we have to control immigration for those reasons. Illegal immigration just complicates it because it is uncontrolled and puts demands on the above that we can't plan for.

There is no reform in the making. It is simply amnesty for immigration lawbreakers. We tried that once before and now we have at least quadruple the number of illegal aliens today with a much larger population and scarce jobs and resources. When does it end? We already allow in legal immigrants based on annual quotas so that we can accommodate their needs without short changing our own citizens. That is smart immigration policy and it is already in place. There is no need for any "reform" and certainly not any amnesty.

[GHOSTRIDER AZ]

Originally Posted by VTHokieFan

I've looked at Labour in the UK, NDP in Canada, PSOE in Spain: they all acknowledge that people who breach borders without going through legal channels are, in fact, breaking the law. But not our Democrats. What is the reason for this unique attribute of the US's center-left party versus other western center-left parties?

Not only that important point, but these same countries deport with passion if they do meet the simple requirement of Visa, Passport and or work permit.

If the US would Keep it simple Illegal Layers would not even have a foot to stand on/

[TrapperJohn]

We can track a carton of milk back to the dairy and the specific cow. We can track a document printed on a laser printer back to the printer and original purchaser via micro-encoding. But somehow we can't do anything about the millions of "citizens" over the age of 112 and their bogus SSN's.

[lvoc]

You guys beat that poor dead horse...again and again...he won't get up.

There is no will and no capability to deport the illegals. Fact of life.

There is no will to install the class of ID that would actually make living here illegally difficult. That is virtually standard everywhere else.

So you folk hold your position and nothing happens. Which is actually the worse case outcome.

[tickyul]

Doing something to TRULY fix the illegal immigration problem in the USA...is as likely to happen as the abolition of the IRS.

Both parties want illegals = no changes for the better.