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Old 03-18-2015, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Iceland
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I have noticed that the politically correct people are now praising both feminism and the transgender fights at the same time. May I ask how both these people can be right at the same time?

On one hand we have the feminists that state gender is fake or at the very least that the physical aspect of it is fake, and on the other hand we have transgenders who claim not only that gender is real but that the physical aspect of it makes all the difference (hence why they claim to be stuck in the wrong bodies).

Why are social justice warriors applauding both causes at once? Both cannot be correct.
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Old 03-18-2015, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I have noticed that the politically correct people are now praising both feminism and the transgender fights at the same time. May I ask how both these people can be right at the same time?

On one hand we have the feminists that state gender is fake or at the very least that the physical aspect of it is fake, and on the other hand we have transgenders who claim not only that gender is real but that the physical aspect of it makes all the difference (hence why they claim to be stuck in the wrong bodies).

Why are social justice warriors applauding both causes at once? Both cannot be correct.
Could you give a link to an article, etc. stating that feminists feel that gender is fake? What I have mostly seen is feminists saying that gender should have nothing to do with how much a person is paid, whether or not the person is seen as a legitimate target for harassment, etc., not that it doesn't exist.
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Old 03-18-2015, 08:42 AM
 
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I think you don't know what feminism is, and probably kinda shaky on what transgender people think as well.
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Old 03-18-2015, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Iceland
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Could you give a link to an article, etc. stating that feminists feel that gender is fake? What I have mostly seen is feminists saying that gender should have nothing to do with how much a person is paid, whether or not the person is seen as a legitimate target for harassment, etc., not that it doesn't exist.
So you haven't ever noticed the constant talk about gender just being a social construct and how the only thing that makes men and women different are the funny parts?
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Old 03-18-2015, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Cape Coma Florida
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Oh good lord, does it even matter who is correct? I fully expect this pseudo-issue will quickly degenerate into a food fight like all other issues, and devolve into mud slinging and personal attacks about things completely unrelated to the topic in short order, just like all other social issues do anymore. I see no point in discussing it.
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Old 03-18-2015, 09:17 AM
 
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I have noticed that the politically correct people are now praising both feminism and the transgender fights at the same time. May I ask how both these people can be right at the same time?

On one hand we have the feminists that state gender is fake or at the very least that the physical aspect of it is fake, and on the other hand we have transgenders who claim not only that gender is real but that the physical aspect of it makes all the difference (hence why they claim to be stuck in the wrong bodies).

Why are social justice warriors applauding both causes at once? Both cannot be correct.
No. They believe the perceived limitations of gender are grossly overstated. They believe that gender is not a barrier to accomplishment nor equality of rights. Not that "gender is fake". I don't think you understand the word fake.
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Old 03-18-2015, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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So you haven't ever noticed the constant talk about gender just being a social construct and how the only thing that makes men and women different are the funny parts?
No, but I have heard, and believe, that specified gender ROLES are a social construct. You know like women stay home, cook, clean, care for the children, and have a martini waiting for her hubby when he gets home from work while the man is the bread winner, protector, and lord of the home.

I think you are having an issue with the word gender. It can mean gender role as in what a male in supposed to be and what a female is supposed to be. Then there is gender as in the sex of people male (has a twig and berries) female (doesn't).
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Old 03-18-2015, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Tip of the Sphere. Just the tip.
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If you're looking for logic and consistency among Social Justice Warriors- you're gonna be disappointed.

That's not to say I necessarily disagree with them most of the time. Hell I'm glad they're around and I think they make an important contribution to society. But if it's logic you want... my advice is to look elsewhere.
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Old 03-18-2015, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Iceland
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If you're looking for logic and consistency among Social Justice Warriors- you're gonna be disappointed.

That's not to say I necessarily disagree with them most of the time. Hell I'm glad they're around and I think they make an important contribution to society. But if it's logic you want... my advice is to look elsewhere.
If you believe them to be illogical, then what good are they contributing?
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