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Old 03-25-2015, 12:30 PM
 
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The Dems are trying to delay part of this bill again, right ?
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Old 03-25-2015, 12:32 PM
 
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The Dems are trying to delay part of this bill again, right ?
That's because it's so successful. It's so successful we can't handle all the wonderfulness at once.
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Old 03-25-2015, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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A victory, albeit a small one, for Americans needing healthcare. Thank you Democrats, we'll done!
Until the Democrats' usual coalition of deadbeats and dead weight sticks the rest of us with the bill, that is!
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Old 03-25-2015, 12:33 PM
 
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A victory, albeit a small one, for Americans needing healthcare. Thank you Democrats, we'll done!
And once again, productive Americans get screwed.
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Old 03-25-2015, 12:34 PM
 
Location: NJ
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We have been promised a lot of things these last five years that didn't turn out to be the case: death panels, doom, a serious alternative from Republicans in Congress," he said.

Mr. Obama says there are two reasons they can't find an alternative. First, "The Affordable Care Act pretty much was their plan before I adopted it - based on conservative market based principles developed by the Heritage Foundation and supported by Republicans in congress and deployed by a guy named Mitt Romney in Massachusetts to great effect," he said.


"If anybody wants to join us in the spirit of the people who have put aside differences to come here today and help make the law even better, come on board. On the other hand, for folks who are basing their entire political agenda on repealing the law, you've got to explain how kicking millions of families off their insurance is somehow going to make us more free," the president said.

The president did not mention the pending legal challenge to the health care law -- the Supreme Court is still weighing the legality of health care subsidies for millions of consumers in the 34 states on the federal exchange.






Five years in, Obama taunts GOP over Obamacare's success - CBS News
Ah, a man and his propaganda machine!

puurfect together as gov Keane used to say.
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Old 03-25-2015, 12:43 PM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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Obamacare still doesn't do well in polls, for good reason. His party performed poorly last election. So does he taunt Americans too? It would seem so.

This is not becoming of a leader; it's juvenile and embarrassing.
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Old 03-25-2015, 12:50 PM
 
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This is not becoming of a leader; it's juvenile and embarrassing.
Kinda reminds me of Jim Jones, who convinced nearly 1000 members of his cult to all commit suicide. Oh how proud he would be of his accomplishments.
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Old 03-25-2015, 01:09 PM
 
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Point 1 - Obama acts like a petulant child. His presidency is part Edward II, part Louis XVI and part Commodus. Lots and lots of incompetence for the actual job, but a whole lot of self-regard, bloated self-importance and a child's maturity in dealing with opposition.

Point 2 - He's taunting the GOP over ObamaCare's "success?" What success? 30 million people are uninsured right this very minute, and ObamaCare was going to eliminate uninisured entirely. ObamaCare was going to lower the deficit, lower insurance/medical costs, and make health care more accessible, when then reverse of all three of those points is the current reality. It has raised the deficit, raised insurance/medical costs, and health care is less accessible, especially to people enrllled in an exchange.

Point 3 - ObamaCare, the law, has never been fully implemented, and still is not fully implemented at the present time. The reason is because Obama doesn't want all the downsides written in the law to take effect until he's out of office, so that the GOP can take the heat for stuff that was always in the law, but delayed for political purposes. Things like the employer mandate, the thousands of waivers to organized labor and any big DNC donors, the delay in the personal penalty, and oh yeah, the illegal subsidies that have been propping up what rosy visions anyone currently has of the law. Yeah, all that bad stuff that makes the law remotely mathematically feasible has been delayed/dismissed/ignored, all to make the law look like the fantasy it always was, where things magically get better and have no real world cost.

Point 4 - Obama acts like a petulant child. Oh wait...nevermind, this should be written more than once, since his entire presidency is based on acting like a 12 year old whose parents won't buy them a new iPhone.
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Old 03-26-2015, 12:58 PM
 
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People who honestly believe that obamacare has been a success are delusional and have very low standards.
I seriously don't think many people do honestly believe that Obamacare has been a success.

They're latching onto its not failing as spectacularly as some people predicted it would order to declare its success. But as for actually meeting the goals set forth for it? Not even close.

Plenty of folks are emotionally, financially, and politically invested in Obamacare not being a failure and will certainly grasp at any straws they can to try to make a success claim for it. But if you stack it up to what was promised back in 2008 and 2009 it really hasn't accomplished anywhere close to what it was supposed to and has meanwhile cost more than double.
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Old 03-26-2015, 01:01 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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A victory, albeit a small one, for Americans needing healthcare. Thank you Democrats, we'll done!



yes america needs healthcare, just not on the government dime, and no i do not believe in medicare or socialized security nor any public program that provides any kind of health care.
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