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Old 04-08-2015, 01:34 PM
 
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Injecting vaccines is shooting craps.

Heroin addicts have more sense than that.
NOT injecting vaccines is also shooting craps....but with much worse odds for you and everyone around you.

Heroin addicts even know they'd rather take a 1 in 100,000 odds of getting sick (or worse), compared to the older generations that faced a 1 in 100 odds of getting sick, and a 1 in 1,000 odds of dying.

 
Old 04-08-2015, 01:35 PM
mm4
 
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One doctor(?) out of how many say it causes autism?

I go with the majority.
Science is a referendum.
 
Old 04-08-2015, 01:37 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Please do us all a favor and keep your children at home if you are some of those parents that have decided to not vaccinate.
 
Old 04-08-2015, 01:46 PM
 
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I'd like to say Wakefield is one sandwich short of a picnic, but in actuality, he was about 1000 subjects short of a study.
 
Old 04-08-2015, 01:49 PM
 
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My daughter received and she is fine.
For now . . .
 
Old 04-08-2015, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Are you sure it is the vaccines causing the autism and not the chem trails?
I think it's riding in cars that's causing the autism. After all, the incidence has increased as car ownership has increased. Correlation = causation. (Sarc)

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Almost no Amish/Mennonite populations were until they were increasingly integrated into the same programs.
It is untrue both that the Amish don't vaccinate and that the Amish don't have autism.
https://imfar.confex.com/imfar/2010/...Paper7336.html
Anecdotal Amish-don’t-vaccinate claims disproved by fact-based study | The Panic Virus

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_"Co-Author of Lancet MMR-Autism Study Exonerated on All Charges of Professional Misconduct"_

"Dr. John Walker-Smith, considered the father of pediatric gastroenterology, has today been restored to his much-deserved reputation of high esteem. His appeal of the U.K. General Medical Council’s 2010 decision to remove his license for serious professional misconduct has been quashed in its entirety. This decision raises questions about the validity of the 2010 GMC proceeding in general.

"The GMC proceeding was a multi-year, multi-million dollar prosecution against Drs. Wakefield, Walker-Smith, and Murch. It related to a controversial 1998 study published in The Lancet suggesting a possible link between autism, the measles-mumps-rubella vaccine and bowel disease. Based on the GMC prosecution, both Drs. Walker-Smith and Wakefield lost their licenses to practice and the Lancet article was officially retracted. The GMC alleged that the physician-authors had failed to obtain necessary ethical clearances and that they had subjected the twelve children in the study to unnecessary medical procedures.

"Justice Mitting, reviewing Dr. Walker-Smith’s appeal in the High Court of Justice, Queen’s Bench Division, Administrative Court, found that the GMC’s conclusions were “based on inadequate and superficial reasoning” and that “the finding of serious professional misconduct and the sanction of erasure are both quashed.” See full text of the decision.

"Dr. Walker-Smith’s professional insurance coverage paid for his appeal; Dr. Wakefield’s insurance carrier would not.

"Dr. Wakefield has recently filed a defamation lawsuit in Texas against the British Medical Journal, Dr. Fiona Godlee, Editor-in-Chief, and journalist Brian Deer, who instigated the GMC prosecution. His lawsuit alleges that the defendants knowingly or recklessly engaged in fraudulent misrepresentations about 1998 Lancet study. While far from decisive, the Mitting ruling bodes well for Dr. Wakefield’s defamation action."

Co-Author of Lancet MMR-Autism Study Exonerated on All Charges of Professional Misconduct - Elizabeth Birt Center for Autism Law & Advocacy
Walker-Smith's exoneration does not mean that Wakefield is exonerated.
Andy Wakefield exonerated because John Walker-Smith won his appeal? Not so fast there, pardner… – Respectful Insolence

Wakefield has plenty of money. He's got some institute in Texas. He's a sleaze.
 
Old 04-08-2015, 01:51 PM
 
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Forrest Gump's mom said it best: Stupid is as stupid does. Plenty of stupid to go around.
 
Old 04-08-2015, 01:54 PM
 
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For now . . .
She is fine period.

Why do people get so hung up on what one doctor says versus the majority.

Wakefield is a quack and completely discredited.

People who believe him are stupid.

And I hate stupid.
 
Old 04-08-2015, 01:54 PM
mm4
 
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Blah blah blah, Progressive Progessive Progessive. Find new lines, the old ones are dead and smell bad.

Retracted autism study an 'elaborate fraud,' British journal finds - CNN.com

"The series of articles launched Wednesday are investigative journalism, not results of a clinical study. The writer, Brian Deer, said Wakefield "chiseled" the data before him, "falsifying medical histories of children and essentially concocting a picture, which was the picture he was contracted to find by lawyers hoping to sue vaccine manufacturers and to create a vaccine scare.

According to BMJ, Wakefield received more than 435,000 pounds ($674,000) from the lawyers. Godlee said the study shows that of the 12 cases Wakefield examined in his paper, five showed developmental problems before receiving the MMR vaccine and three never had autism."

Payola. He was PAID to falsify research that not even he can replicate, that fails the scientific method, fails peer review and is blatantly untrue.
CNN also has a bad habit of deceptively Chroma Keying from locations where it isn't. Here's one of the more notorious examples of that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LK9a8AT2b8

You know, if you like being deceived.
 
Old 04-08-2015, 01:56 PM
 
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She is fine period.

Why do people get so hung up on what one doctor says versus the majority.

Wakefield is a quack and completely discredited.

People who believe him are stupid.

And I hate stupid.
The "majority" is usually wrong.

Science has proven that time and time again.

The consensus is more often than not, absensical.

It is much easier to control a group, with all its members feeding on itself, than to control an individual.

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