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Old 04-03-2015, 10:05 AM
 
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I agree. With the condition that they can no longer by a teacher ANYWHERE in the country at public or private school. Or even work with children. And how about no government or taxpayer funded job in the state too. They already lost their job and career. I think this combined with a steep fine and a little community service is enough.

Not surprised to see some self-righteous posters defending up to 20 years in prison for this. You can throw them in jail for a couple days or a week to "send a message" if you want but by losing their job + NEVER teaching again + Steep fine/community service I think is a fair punishment.
Prison time is fitting. However, I think the 20+ years stuff is just the system trying to flex its muscles. I believe revoking their ability to teach again would really send a message.
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Old 04-03-2015, 10:10 AM
 
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Up to 20 years in prison? Christ, the average rapist goes to jail for 8 years. What the hell is happening to our justice system. Yeah, they should be punished, but 20 years in prison for this?
I agree with this. I think a year and a long probationary period would have been a better punishment.
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Old 04-03-2015, 10:12 AM
 
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I agree with this. I think a year and a long probationary period would have been a better punishment.
And in addition to what you have suggested, no more teaching again. Revoking their ability to teach again will really send a message.

20 years in prison, and the persons involved will eventually become institutionalized. And one thing to consider, 20 years in prison, those teachers might grow old in prison.

Considering that rapists don't even get that long, it is ludicrous.
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Old 04-03-2015, 10:34 AM
 
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It is not a ridiculous sentence on account of rapists; it is a good sentence for public corruption; what is ridiculous is that (violent) rapists do not get life.
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Old 04-05-2015, 10:01 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Good. Those guilt of fraud and theft from the taxpayer should receive long prison sentences.

Racketeering is a trumped charge for teachers who were underpaid and had the challenge of teaching high risk students in areas where funding was cut. The real racketeering were the financial institutions that almost crashed our economy, yet they never went to jail.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG6lwsMQyLA
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Old 04-05-2015, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Racketeering is a trumped charge for teachers who were underpaid and had the challenge of teaching high risk students in areas where funding was cut. The real racketeering were the financial institutions that almost crashed our economy, yet they never went to jail.

With salaries ranging from $74K to $140K and "bonus" money of up to $500K I would hardly classify them as "underpaid".

Most were administrative and testing coordinators...not classroom teachers.


Former salaries of convicted APS educators
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Old 04-05-2015, 10:48 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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We had a similar escapade in our school system. The different spin on ours was on the testing days, the "not so smart kids" were dis enrolled for the testing period and then brought back. I don't remember anyone going to jail over it, but a number of principles, assistant principles, administrators at other levels and even the district superintendent were all fired and will never work in education again.
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Old 04-05-2015, 10:54 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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We had a similar escapade in our school system. The different spin on ours was on the testing days, the "not so smart kids" were dis enrolled for the testing period and then brought back. I don't remember anyone going to jail over it, but a number of principles, assistant principles, administrators at other levels and even the district superintendent were all fired and will never work in education again.
Would this be Beaumont ?
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Old 04-05-2015, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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They are being scapegoated. How would you like your job dependent on whether children from horrid backgrounds learn at the same level as middle class kids? I think they should be punished but 20 years is too much. Frankly I don't think they warrant more than probation and fined that claw back their bonuses.
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Old 04-05-2015, 11:19 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Oh come on , now.

Don't you realize there are no stupid kids?

If there are any dummies in America, it's all the fault of the public schools, you know. Ask any right winger. Privatization is the answer. Private schools will make the dumb ones smart, the short ones tall, and the dumpy ones attractive.
I agree but the left wingers are the ones with their heads in the sand. They also control the schools. Admittedly the right wing goes a little overboard in their union hating and school choice fetishes.
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