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Old 04-07-2015, 09:18 PM
 
Location: California
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According to the bible in many cases remarrying after divorce is a sin. However you will never hear of a Christian business refusing service for weddings that are second marriages for one or both of the recipients. You will hardly even hear of churches or pastors refusing to marry these couples. In addition, the New Testament also forbids a Christian from marrying a non-believer, yet almost all Protestant Christian businesses or churches have no qualms providing services for these type of weddings. This proves the "Religious freedom" cry is just a ploy. This is all about discriminating against homosexuals, and certainly not about upholding the tenants of biblical marriage.

"Do not be bound together [unequally yoked] with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness?" (2 Corinthians 6:14)

"Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery” (Matthew 19:9).

 
Old 04-07-2015, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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It's very simple to explain. Homosexual sex acts are a hell of a lot more grossly offensive to Christians who want to discriminate than are heterosexual sex acts and sex sins. Indeed, about the only people who get mad and offended about straights cheating on each other is the spouse and maybe the in-laws. And, of course, the children.
 
Old 04-07-2015, 09:25 PM
 
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Because they, like any religion, pick and choose the most convenient parts to suit their agenda. I give you...Christianity a la carte.
 
Old 04-07-2015, 09:36 PM
 
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This makes no sense, even as someone who believes most services should be provided to homosexuals.

A business is not going to pry into people's relationship to that degree. Homosexuality is in their faces. That's the difference.
 
Old 04-07-2015, 09:58 PM
 
Location: California
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This makes no sense, even as someone who believes most services should be provided to homosexuals.

A business is not going to pry into people's relationship to that degree. Homosexuality is in their faces. That's the difference.
Well a pastor of a church who performs marriages for his congregants is often very aware that one of his members has been previously married or if a congregant is marrying a non-religious person from outside the church who is a non-believer. Any regular church member can attest they've seen many of these types of marriages in their church, with no qualms.

And as for businesses, in one of the cases in Oregon where a bakery refused a cake for a same-sex marriage, the owner didn't know when the order was originally placed, but somehow began to suspect, and then called back the person who placed the order and asked "is this for a same-sex marriage?". If that owner would have heard from someone in her network that a recent order was for a second marriage or an interfaith marriage, I guarantee she would not call back to clarify that information and then refused the order.
 
Old 04-07-2015, 10:14 PM
 
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Well a pastor of a church who performs marriages for his congregants is often very aware that one of his members has been previously married or if a congregant is marrying a non-religious person from outside the church who is a non-believer. Any regular church member can attest they've seen many of these types of marriages in their church, with no qualms.

And as for businesses, in one of the cases in Oregon where a bakery refused a cake for a same-sex marriage, the owner didn't know when the order was originally placed, but somehow began to suspect, and then called back the person who placed the order and asked "is this for a same-sex marriage?". If that owner would have heard from someone in her network that a recent order was for a second marriage or an interfaith marriage, I guarantee she would not call back to clarify that information and then refused the order.

Non-mainstream Christian branches often differ. As a regular church member, I cannot personally attest to those types of marriages (to a nonbeliever) performed in our branch of Christianity because they are forbidden. Not one. Any incidence would be rare and likely put the pastor at risk for losing his position via the conference. Even marrying outside of our branch is not encouraged and many pastors will not perform the marriages.

But surely they do happen in Christianity...

As for businesses, they generally do not have access to that info. Why in the world should anyone call back to pry about the details of a second marriage or insist on both parties revealing their religious persuasion? You are assuming that the businesses only serve Christians. Sorry but idea that the average business should pry for that info is preposterous.

As for the Oregon owner, I don't know what they would have done if faced with the other matters. Some people are that strict. Regardless, I take a different stance on the cake for homosexual couples issue than the owners...
 
Old 04-07-2015, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Bc they are FOS.

Let's not mince words.

Everyone knows it's just a ruse. To cover their bigotry.
If they were serious about their religion, they wouldn't serve 90% of the population.
 
Old 04-07-2015, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Elysium
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According to the bible in many cases remarrying after divorce is a sin. However you will never hear of a Christian business refusing service for weddings that are second marriages for one or both of the recipients. You will hardly even hear of churches or pastors refusing to marry these couples. In addition, the New Testament also forbids a Christian from marrying a non-believer, yet almost all Protestant Christian businesses or churches have no qualms providing services for these type of weddings. This proves the "Religious freedom" cry is just a ploy. This is all about discriminating against homosexuals, and certainly not about upholding the tenants of biblical marriage.

"Do not be bound together [unequally yoked] with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness?" (2 Corinthians 6:14)

"Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery” (Matthew 19:9).
You really have never heard of the hoops a Catholic must go through to get an annulment?

The
 
Old 04-07-2015, 10:33 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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This makes no sense, even as someone who believes most services should be provided to homosexuals.

A business is not going to pry into people's relationship to that degree. Homosexuality is in their faces. That's the difference.
What hogwash. The only difference is that conservative Christians are selectively bigoted against homosexuals while ignoring other cases where the same principle should apply.
 
Old 04-07-2015, 10:34 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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This makes no sense, even as someone who believes most services should be provided to homosexuals.

A business is not going to pry into people's relationship to that degree. Homosexuality is in their faces. That's the difference.
Not necessarily.

For example, a Christian/Muslim marriage. Man walks in looking typical with a cross necklace on, hand in hand with a women wearing a hijab. To the observant person, it's very clear these two are not of the same religion. Would a Christian baker refuse this? I'm inclined to say, probably not. Maybe this situation has never happened, but if it were to happen, I doubt there'd be a problem.

But I've been wrong before. Maybe I'm giving bakers too much credit.
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