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Are bullies going to jail? If so, then the movement is being taken way to seriously. But I don't think that's happening.
I think they actually are in some cases. Either way, a lot of people would like to see children as young as 12 tried as adults and put in adult jail, which I find ridiculous. They're basically saying they hope they get raped and beaten because they "deserve" it for stupid childhood BS they'll probably grow out of in a few years.
I think they actually are in some cases. Either way, a lot of people would like to see children as young as 12 tried as adults and put in adult jail, which I find ridiculous. They're basically saying they hope they get raped and beaten because they "deserve" it for stupid childhood BS they'll probably grow out of in a few years.
I don't think a lot of people want to see that at all.
I think they actually are in some cases. Either way, a lot of people would like to see children as young as 12 tried as adults and put in adult jail, which I find ridiculous. They're basically saying they hope they get raped and beaten because they "deserve" it for stupid childhood BS they'll probably grow out of in a few years.
What are the charges when they go to jail? Rape and assault, or name calling? Rape and assault should always land you in jail, regardless of if you call it bullying or not.
I think they actually are in some cases. Either way, a lot of people would like to see children as young as 12 tried as adults and put in adult jail, which I find ridiculous. They're basically saying they hope they get raped and beaten because they "deserve" it for stupid childhood BS they'll probably grow out of in a few years.
What possible evidence do you have that 12 year olds who have raped, assaulted, attempted to kill someone, will 'grow out of it' in a few years?
Correct me if I am wrong (of course), but I think "jail" (and in most cases, this means detention in a youth facility) is reserved for those cases in which actual physical injury or death has occurred -- NOT for "simple" name-calling or teasing, for which I agree that an in-school suspensions is in order.
And for the record, I don't think the "anti-bullying" movement is "faddish" but something that needs to be consistently enforced. In fact, on another current thread (Education) the subject is TEACHERS who tease a special needs student. What kind of example does that set for students?
What possible evidence do you have that 12 year olds who have raped, assaulted, attempted to kill someone, will 'grow out of it' in a few years?
I was referring to bullying, but no children should not be tried as adults, their brains are not the same as adults so it isn't fair. Only America and other uncivilized countries try children as adults.
I was referring to bullying, but no children should not be tried as adults, their brains are not the same as adults so it isn't fair. Only America and other uncivilized countries try children as adults.
non violent bullies aren't going to jail, they are simply expelled.
They deserved to be brutalized by adults, you are saying? That's ridiculous.
Hysterics and hyperbole are never a good thing. Where did anyone say "bullies deserved to be brutalized by adults"?
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I'm just saying they should be treated with a bit of compassion because of their immaturity, not treated like hardened sociopaths, that's all. They should be punished, but with suspension and expulsion, not like an adult would be.
Where is your link for a common school bully being sent to prison or even adult jail?
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I think they actually are in some cases. Either way, a lot of people would like to see children as young as 12 tried as adults and put in adult jail, which I find ridiculous. They're basically saying they hope they get raped and beaten because they "deserve" it for stupid childhood BS they'll probably grow out of in a few years.
Please quote your sources that a lot of people want 12 year old bullies in adult jail.
I think they actually are in some cases. Either way, a lot of people would like to see children as young as 12 tried as adults and put in adult jail, which I find ridiculous. They're basically saying they hope they get raped and beaten because they "deserve" it for stupid childhood BS they'll probably grow out of in a few years.
But what landed them in jail? Name calling? Cyber bullying? Throwing a rock at a kid? If it was those, then that's excessive. But if they beat a kid to the point of nearly dying or actually dying... that's a crime.
Now, you do raise an important question that we still don't quite know how to answer: should a kid be tried as an adult? The problem here is that kids (or more accurately, minors) don't have the same rights as adults. In fact, they hardly have rights at all. With the exception of child endangerment laws and such, a minor is more or less property to their parents until they're 18 when they become full citizens. And while some cases, obviously a kid shouldn't be tried as an adult, but what if the kid killed someone. While they may grow out of it, we can't do nothing about a situation like that.
Also, kids aren't being sent to maximum security prisons. They go to juvenile detentions. Unless I missed a case where that didn't happen, which is possible.
Bullying shouldn't be a crime though. But there is a line that can be crossed that we need to be watchful for.
But what landed them in jail? Name calling? Cyber bullying? Throwing a rock at a kid? If it was those, then that's excessive. But if they beat a kid to the point of nearly dying or actually dying... that's a crime.
Now, you do raise an important question that we still don't quite know how to answer: should a kid be tried as an adult? The problem here is that kids (or more accurately, minors) don't have the same rights as adults. In fact, they hardly have rights at all. With the exception of child endangerment laws and such, a minor is more or less property to their parents until they're 18 when they become full citizens. And while some cases, obviously a kid shouldn't be tried as an adult, but what if the kid killed someone. While they may grow out of it, we can't do nothing about a situation like that.
Also, kids aren't being sent to maximum security prisons. They go to juvenile detentions. Unless I missed a case where that didn't happen, which is possible.
Bullying shouldn't be a crime though. But there is a line that can be crossed that we need to be watchful for.
Yes, I think it's hypocritical that a kid doesn't have any adult rights yet people think they should have adult punishments. Like they aren't old enough to drink alcohol yet apparently they can handle a lifetime in prison?
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