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Old 04-24-2015, 04:47 AM
 
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Obama has dramatically escalated the use of drones since taking office. Using more drones, bombing more countries, creating more foreign drone bases, and killing more civilians by drones than Bush was.

We have killed 1,147 civilians in order to kill 41 terrorist leaders. Is it acceptable to have that ratio? Is this creating more terrorists?

What kind of precedent are we setting as more and more countries tell the US to stop flying drones over their country and we ignore them? Keep in mind more countries will have drones in the near future.

Obama's Orwellian Language on Drones - Bloomberg View

St. Pete for Peace - Obama fact sheet
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Old 04-24-2015, 05:17 AM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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I see that right-wingers are playing the "Obama: Warmonger" card this week. I guess they felt it was time to switch it up after weeks of playing the "Obama: Muslim Sympathizer" card.
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Old 04-24-2015, 05:25 AM
 
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Is Obama's Drone War Worth It?
Drones take out the enemy while ensuring next-to-none chance of American casualties. What if your preferred way of dealing with terrorist leaders?
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Old 04-24-2015, 05:44 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Obama has dramatically escalated the use of drones since taking office. Using more drones, bombing more countries, creating more foreign drone bases, and killing more civilians by drones than Bush was.

We have killed 1,147 civilians in order to kill 41 terrorist leaders. Is it acceptable to have that ratio? Is this creating more terrorists?

What kind of precedent are we setting as more and more countries tell the US to stop flying drones over their country and we ignore them? Keep in mind more countries will have drones in the near future.

Obama's Orwellian Language on Drones - Bloomberg View

St. Pete for Peace - Obama fact sheet

Do you really believe the ratio is any lower in cities bombed by manned aircraft?

The issue of manned vs. unmanned aircraft is irrelevant, the question should be whether the reward is worth the damage caused.
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Old 04-24-2015, 06:13 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Drones are a great way to spy on the enemy and gather information. It is also a good way to take out the enemy without putting any of our guys in harms way.
The last thing any President wants is flag drapped coffins coming home. It is bad for ratings. Drones help cut those numbers.

Of course there can be collateral damage such as killing civilians and irking so called friendly countries by taking over their airspace. There is also a chance of killing hostages which just happened when a drone hit a isis camp. An American and Italian hostage was killed in the strike but as we have seen anyone in the hands of isis is doomed to die a terrible death on the internet.

War is hell and drones remove some of that ugliness but it is still war.
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Old 04-24-2015, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Keeps our youth out of the Middle East wars, great.
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Old 04-24-2015, 06:57 AM
 
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I don't think its enough.
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Old 04-24-2015, 07:06 AM
 
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I see that right-wingers are playing the "Obama: Warmonger" card this week. I guess they felt it was time to switch it up after weeks of playing the "Obama: Muslim Sympathizer" card.
Now, now. It's actually a decent question.

Just to throw out an insanely overgeneralized response to the OP...I think that at this point in history, absolutely the only way that a Western country can hold a feisty third world one (the seizing part is no problem) is by installing our SOB over their SOB. We've lost the thread on how to directly administer countries like that, which requires a certain amount of brutality.

Since 'our SOB' doesn't appear to be able to control his country, I'd say that drone strikes won't make any difference.
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Old 04-24-2015, 07:14 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Keeps our youth out of the Middle East wars, great.
Absolutely!

Putting fewer Americans in harm's way is unquestionably a good thing.

Some of wars we choose to participate in are very questionable.
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Old 04-24-2015, 07:22 AM
 
Location: California
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41 terrorist leaders dead, heck yes it's worth it. when you hear of the innocent civilians being killed how do we really know this? because the terrorists claim it? Terrorists try to hide among innocent people, we are not responsible for that. terrorists kill innocent people on purpose.
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