Ultra-Orthodox Community in London bans women driving (Israel, suspect, Reid)
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May someone shed some light on this? I'm curious as to the theological reasoning behind the ban? Obviously not (and probably most) Jewish sects disagree with this ban but I'm curious as to what causes such a schism?
It appears to meet local standards. These folks don't read newspapers or have Internet. They won't hear you complain, and I suspect this has the full support of the women in the community. For outsiders to have an opinion is a waste of your time. Let them do what they want. There are no victims here.
It appears to meet local standards. These folks don't read newspapers or have Internet. They won't hear you complain, and I suspect this has the full support of the women in the community. For outsiders to have an opinion is a waste of your time. Let them do what they want. There are no victims here.
I'm not complaining nor criticizing. Just a curious Ishmaelite who wants to know what the scriptual and theological variance is here between them and other Jewish sects and groups.
I'm not complaining nor criticizing. Just a curious Ishmaelite who wants to know what the scriptual and theological variance is here between them and other Jewish sects and groups.
Jews like to emulate Sarah, Abraham's wife. She had great Middos (character traits), foremost of which was her modesty. Doesn't matter level of Observance, it all comes from the same source.
Jews like to emulate Sarah, Abraham's wife. She had great Middos (character traits), foremost of which was her modesty. Doesn't matter level of Observance, it all comes from the same source.
I see. So I imagine the level of observance will then lead itself to more conservative interpretations of what constitutes modesty? I'm just curious as to why not driving a car = modesty? I understand the Saudi explanation for it but wondering about the Jewish thought here.
I see. So I imagine the level of observance will then lead itself to more conservative interpretations of what constitutes modesty? I'm just curious as to why not driving a car = modesty? I understand the Saudi explanation for it but wondering about the Jewish thought here.
I'm not particularly sure either how not driving a car = modesty. But I assure you this is a non story. I always doubt the intent of writing (or posting) a story on Jewish culture, when they pick unusual customs like the one above. Surely you meant no ill intent. Not sure I can say the same for the publication that chose to pay a writer to write that article.
Not the first time as it already existed in the US.
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often involving dubious ways of repressing women in the name of modesty (women not driving, women having to shave their hair when they get married) – with real halachic prohibitions (such as not keeping Shabbat or kosher) that is the problem here. The women – and men – in these communities are not even taught the difference between real Torah prohibitions and community-specific interdictions. Thus, they grow into adulthood fully believing that if a woman learns to drive a car, she’s well-nigh breaking a Torah commandment.
North London is my 2nd home. There have long been tensions between the modern Orthodox and Haredi populations and this is no exception. My modern Orthodox friends have taken to Facebook to express how embarrassed and outraged they are, not to mention how these actions add fuel to the antisemitic fire. Shame.
North London is my 2nd home. There have long been tensions between the modern Orthodox and Haredi populations and this is no exception. My modern Orthodox friends have taken to Facebook to express how embarrassed and outraged they are, not to mention how these actions add fuel to the antisemitic fire. Shame.
Interesting. The Chareidi in those neighborhoods have refrained from going to the Internet to speak badly of their fellow Jews. Different hashkafos, I guess.
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