Texas Voter ID law Struck down. (Hispanics, vs, governor, elect)
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I' m glad this judge had the sense to knock this down. The only way Republicans can win political races is if they rig the game. You have to ask yourself why is that? According to them a majority of Americans support their platform. If thats true then why do they persist on trying to block people from voting? I know they have self esteem issues but they should let the people, ALL the people, have their voices heard. But they fear that so they will continue to use these tactics.
The ones that whine the loudest are the "state's rights" crowd. Those guys seem to forget that we already settled that little matter back in 1865. Their side lost and I think it still irks them a bit to remember that.
You won't be able to get on a plane without as one example. I guess they can sue the feds for the discriminatory practices.
Not for that, there is nothing that says you are free to travel by plane without an ID. Though if right wingers really cared about the photo ID issue, they would be pushing for a federal photo ID that was free to get and marked as legal citizens.
But we both know that will never happen because the issue isn't actually about the photo ID, it is about trying to suppress the vote to put it in favor of a specific party.
Though if right wingers really cared about the photo ID issue, they would be pushing for a federal photo ID that was free to get and marked as legal citizens.
What purpose is that going to serve? It's going to have the same requirements as the state ID. You're just duplicating services.
Furthermore while I would certainly like to see legal status indicated that's not going to fly very far with the left.
What purpose is that going to serve? It's going to have the same requirements as the state ID. You're just duplicating services.
Furthermore while I would certainly like to see legal status indicated that's not going to fly very far with the left.
Well the state ID only informs people of which state they live in, not about their citizenship. As someone on the left, if you want us all to have a federal ID that has our photo and says that we are in fact legal citizens, I am cool with that.
Either that or when requiring a photo ID, any state ID should be acceptable when voting in person. Which of course the rare cases of voter fraud that actually happens tends to be from someone who did mail in or on the side that is collecting the votes. But please ignore that fact and keep pretending like voter fraud happens in mass when we don't require to see a photo ID of someone we have probably never met before in person, nor have a photo sheet to compare the photo ID to to make sure it is the correct person.
I' m glad this judge had the sense to knock this down. The only way Republicans can win political races is if they rig the game. You have to ask yourself why is that? According to them a majority of Americans support their platform. If thats true then why do they persist on trying to block people from voting? I know they have self esteem issues but they should let the people, ALL the people, have their voices heard. But they fear that so they will continue to use these tactics.
The ones that whine the loudest are the "state's rights" crowd. Those guys seem to forget that we already settled that little matter back in 1865. Their side lost and I think it still irks them a bit to remember that.
My friend, Wendy "diaper" Davis was running against Abbott.
Even Dems switched for that election
You didn't need voter ID for to have a Republican win.
...if you want us all to have a federal ID that has our photo and says that we are in fact legal citizens, I am cool with that.
What purpose is that going to serve other than enormous expense? These services are already provided by the state and each is following the same guidelines and laws to issue them. Why duplicate them?
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But please ignore that fact and keep pretending like voter fraud happens in mass
In 2000 the Presidential election was basically decided by 500 votes.
How many fraudulent votes were cast for Bush in Florida?
How many fraudulent votes were cast for Gore in Florida?
If we subtract them does Gore win?
That is three questions you nor anyone else can answer, it doesn't have to be massive when 500 votes can swing a Presidential election.
Well the state ID only informs people of which state they live in, not about their citizenship. As someone on the left, if you want us all to have a federal ID that has our photo and says that we are in fact legal citizens, I am cool with that.
Either that or when requiring a photo ID, any state ID should be acceptable when voting in person. Which of course the rare cases of voter fraud that actually happens tends to be from someone who did mail in or on the side that is collecting the votes. But please ignore that fact and keep pretending like voter fraud happens in mass when we don't require to see a photo ID of someone we have probably never met before in person, nor have a photo sheet to compare the photo ID to to make sure it is the correct person.
Wrong. Driver License and State ID require proof of citizenship.
That's how it used to be for all states.
You have some states that have dropped the citizenship requirement.
Texas did not. You have to prove citizenship for both.
Texas does have a special ID for non citizens that has a big stripe down the center but they have to prove lawful right to be in this country.
What purpose is that going to serve other than enormous expense? These services are already provided by the state and each is following the same guidelines and laws to issue them. Why duplicate them?
In 2000 the Presidential election was basically decided by 500 votes.
How many fraudulent votes were cast for Bush in Florida?
How many fraudulent votes were cast for Gore in Florida?
If we subtract them does Gore win?
That is three questions you nor anyone else can answer, it doesn't have to be massive when 500 votes can swing a Presidential election.
There probably wasn't anywhere close to 500 in person voter fraud votes cast in Florida in 2000. They had a bigger issue with the "hanging chad" and what classified as a "vote."
Currently your photo ID is not enough to prove you are a citizen of this country, but that would be fine if one could vote in the state of Texas and use a photo ID from another state. It proves who they are, and with mail with their name on it proves their address, therefore should be more than enough to let someone vote in Texas.
Not for that, there is nothing that says you are free to travel by plane without an ID. Though if right wingers really cared about the photo ID issue, they would be pushing for a federal photo ID that was free to get and marked as legal citizens.
But we both know that will never happen because the issue isn't actually about the photo ID, it is about trying to suppress the vote to put it in favor of a specific party.
No one is pushing for a Fed ID. That can't happen because then illegals couldn't get IDs.
Illegals get IDs in several states that violate the RealID Act. They get the exact same ID as citizens and they are not supposed to.
A national ID is not even on the table.
Why not stick to the topic of this thread..Texas voter ID law.
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