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Old 09-04-2015, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Originally Posted by jetgraphics View Post
Well, apparently it didn't nullify misdemeanors, only felonies.
Try again.
But still - sodomy is a crime against nature... just a petty crime.
You might want to re-read the case again.

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Issue
Does a statute making it a crime for two persons of the same sex to engage in certain intimate sexual conduct violate the Due Process Clause?

Holding and Rule (Kennedy)
Yes. A statute making it a crime for two persons of the same sex to engage in certain intimate sexual conduct violates the Due Process Clause.
Liberty protects the person from unwarranted government intrusions. Freedom extends beyond spatial bounds. Liberty presumes an autonomy of self that includes freedom of thought, belief, expression, and certain intimate conduct. The defendants are adults and their conduct was in private and consensual.
Lawrence v. Texas – Case Brief Summary

 
Old 09-04-2015, 08:31 AM
 
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If Obama and Hillary can refuse to abide by a Federal Judges order, then so can ANYONE. That's the point here. She got what she deserved, now how about Clinton and Obama?
 
Old 09-04-2015, 08:33 AM
 
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I keep seeing the fact that she is a democrat being touted as some kind of salient point. Who cares which party this nutjob claims? It's only those who view politics as a team sport who care about such things. Democrat or Republican, this woman is wrong, period. As a Democrat, I don't find it difficult at all to say.
As a conservative i agree with you. She has a public job. She needs to follow the law. The point being made about her being a democrat is that most articles about her leave her party affiliation out of the article. The assumption is shes a conservative republican. If she was it would be all over the news. So since its used against us all the time even when a nutjob is a registered dem. we need to point this out!
 
Old 09-04-2015, 08:37 AM
 
Location: NYC based - Used to Live in Philly - Transplant from Miami
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Originally Posted by JAMS14 View Post
I keep seeing the fact that she is a democrat being touted as some kind of salient point. Who cares which party this nutjob claims? It's only those who view politics as a team sport who care about such things. Democrat or Republican, this woman is wrong, period. As a Democrat, I don't find it difficult at all to say.
Same here.
As a democrat, I think she is in the wrong. And she deserves what comes to her.
I will have the same opinion if the case involving a Muslim, Buddhist, people with three eyes, whatever.
I even condemn that sleazy lesbian waitress that used lesbian card to her advantage. Such an embarrassment to our LGBT community.
 
Old 09-04-2015, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Originally Posted by jjrose View Post
You might want to re-read the case again.


Lawrence v. Texas – Case Brief Summary
I double checked the Kentucky statutes - they're up to date (2015) - and they list sodomy as a crime.
Maybe you should complain to them...
 
Old 09-04-2015, 08:44 AM
 
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No, her job description is still the same. Issue marriage licenses. It did't say "issue marriage licenses to those that you personally feel should have one".
well you can say that all day long.

its not true.

5 men in robes changed her job description without her consent. period.


That is vastly different from the question asked.
 
Old 09-04-2015, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Coffee Bean
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[Supreme Court Insanity Flag on]
. . .
Only a marriage between one man and one woman shall be valid or recognized as a marriage in Kentucky. A legal status identical or substantially similar to that of marriage for unmarried individuals shall not be valid or recognized.
- - - Amendment 1, Kentucky Constitution.
. . .
Kentucky Revised Statutes - Chapter 510
Kentucky Revised Statutes
510.100 Sodomy in the fourth degree.
(1) A person is guilty of sodomy in the fourth degree when he engages in deviate sexual intercourse with another person of the same sex.
(2) Notwithstanding the provisions of KRS 510.020, consent of the other person shall not be a defense under this section, nor shall lack of consent of the other person be an element of this offense.
(3) Sodomy in the fourth degree is a Class A misdemeanor.
Effective: January 1, 1975
History: Created 1974 Ky. Acts ch. 406, sec. 90, effective January 1, 1975
. . .
A license to marry does not grant them the right to engage in a misdemeanor... it plainly states consent has nothing to do with it.

A marriage contract only merges property rights for the benefit of progeny - which homosexual couples do not generate. And if they engage in crimes against nature, they're in violation of the law.

No Supreme court ruled against sodomy or crimes against nature.

So WHO is KIDDING whom?
Congress for Kids: [Judicial Branch]: The Supreme Court
 
Old 09-04-2015, 08:47 AM
 
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well you can say that all day long.

its not true.

5 men in robes changed her job description without her consent. period.


That is vastly different from the question asked.
No one changed her job description. Her job was to issue marriage licenses. It sill is to issue marriage licenses. There is not a special license for gay people and one for straight people--there is only one license, the same one she's been issuing for years. Nothing in her job changed whatsoever.
 
Old 09-04-2015, 08:53 AM
 
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No one changed her job description. Her job was to issue marriage licenses. It sill is to issue marriage licenses. There is not a special license for gay people and one for straight people--there is only one license, the same one she's been issuing for years. Nothing in her job changed whatsoever.
dude how many times do you have to see it??

I mean good grief. 5 members of SCOTUS just overturned the entire history of marriage in America. period.


That just happened. you cannot under any semblance of being honest say that did not happen.


period.


jump up and down and yell that rugby balls are round all you want. That wont make them look like pizza!

geez.



why cant you prog-activists just be honest about what you want and what you have done?

just be honest.
 
Old 09-04-2015, 08:54 AM
 
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She is a clerk, nothing more. She doesn't perform the marriages and she's free to feel however she wants about the folks who come in. But as a CLERK she has to follow the law no matter her personal beliefs. Clerks simply take the info, make sure everything is correct, legal, up to date and sign it off. Not rocket science.
Agreed.

She is not marrying the couple by issuing a marriage license, all the license does is entitle the couple to the rights and protections of our federal and state marriage laws.

People do not need a state marriage license to live together, engage in sexual relations, share property, adopt children, or to even get married. People can agree to have anyone perform their marriage ceremony, all the state marriage license does is allow them avail themselves of legal protections.
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