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Old 09-07-2015, 08:00 AM
 
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That is why the secular beliefs are ruining the country.. they stifle morality which is a belief in Religion.. to do good . The ten commandments are morally upright..

Do we really want a government that is corrupt , lies to the people, and runs the country into a declining moral code? Lately I have seen enough of it.

The left speaks about freedom with no consequences to their actions,but when they have no moral code, they become drug addicts, alcoholics, takers, and expect the government to fix them.

To have moral standards and respect for oneself is a plus in every single person. To have greed, to lie to manipulate, deceive with half truths , corrupt and immoral behavior , how does that help society?

God's ways are higher than man's ways.. without a moral code this world will destroy itself.
You mean this way?

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15 On the seventh day, they got up at daybreak and marched around the city seven times in the same manner, except that on that day they circled the city seven times. 16 The seventh time around, when the priests sounded the trumpet blast, Joshua commanded the army, “Shout! For the Lord has given you the city! 17 The city and all that is in it are to be devoted[a] to the Lord. Only Rahab the prostitute and all who are with her in her house shall be spared, because she hid the spies we sent. 18 But keep away from the devoted things, so that you will not bring about your own destruction by taking any of them. Otherwise you will make the camp of Israel liable to destruction and bring trouble on it. 19 All the silver and gold and the articles of bronze and iron are sacred to the Lord and must go into his treasury.”

20 When the trumpets sounded, the army shouted, and at the sound of the trumpet, when the men gave a loud shout, the wall collapsed; so everyone charged straight in, and they took the city. 21 They devoted the city to the Lord and destroyed with the sword every living thing in it—men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Joshua%206

 
Old 09-07-2015, 08:05 AM
 
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Hey OP, ever heard of the First Amendment?
What more evidence do you need that conservatives hate the Constitution?
 
Old 09-07-2015, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Police cars' 'In God We Trust' decals draw complaints about separation of church and state | Fox News

The myth of 'separation' lives on. Why don't these people study the Constitution and find out that there is no "separation" clause anywhere in the Constitution, nor in any of our founding documents?

These are atheists, who want to force their atheism on the rest of us. They are free to practice their 'religion,' but they are not free to force it on me or anyone else.

The facts are that the Founders of this country believed in God, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and they wrote in the Constitution that Congress should establish no one denomination as the "official" state church, which the Church of England had been, resulting in the persecution of anyone who did not accept the teachings of the Church of England. This included the "Puritans," who wanted to "purify" the church (why they were called "puritans"), Calvinists (reformers) and others.

The First Amendment was NOT to keep religion out of political life, for it is really an impossible thing to keep ones religion from influencing how one thinks or views the world.

Further, the Northwest Ordinance states in Article 3 "Religion, morality and knowledge, being necessary for good government, and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means of education shall forever be encouraged."
You keep posting this same nonsense over and over. Why? Do you think the more you say it that suddenly it's going to be true? Why don't YOU read the Constitution and find out why the government can't endorse any particular religion. Just for the record; Atheists and non-Christians are trying to stop YOUR religion from being shoved down their throats with these false claims of yours. Lately we've been pretty successful at it. I'm actually impressed at how far we've come! It's funny how Christians like to try and spin this so they're the victims. They're upset because the grip they once had on this country is rapidly fading.
 
Old 09-07-2015, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Limbo
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It works both ways. If I'm not free 'force atheism' on you (if that's even possible), then you aren't free to force Christianity on me.

Why do people who want a political society free from religious laws upset you? Do they want the wrong kind of freedom?
 
Old 09-07-2015, 08:30 AM
 
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You keep posting this same nonsense over and over. Why? Do you think the more you say it that suddenly it's going to be true? Why don't YOU read the Constitution and find out why the government can't endorse any particular religion. Just for the record; Atheists and non-Christians are trying to stop YOUR religion from being shoved down their throats with these false claims of yours. Lately we've been pretty successful at it. I'm actually impressed at how far we've come! It's funny how Christians like to try and spin this so they're the victims. They're upset because the grip they once had on this country is rapidly fading.
The nazis figured out that if you tell a lie long enough people will believe it.
 
Old 09-07-2015, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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If the Dearborn police put "In Allah we trust" you would take a totally different stance, which makes you yet another hypocritical Christian
"Allah" is Arabic for God and predates Islam.

Arab Christians refer to God as Allah.

Last edited by middle-aged mom; 09-07-2015 at 08:51 AM..
 
Old 09-07-2015, 08:44 AM
 
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If the Dearborn police put "In Allah we trust" you would take a totally different stance, which makes you yet another hypocritical Christian
It just means the vast majority of us are Christian.
 
Old 09-07-2015, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Many of the original colonists immigrated here because of religious intolerance and persecution, they wanted to insure it didn't happen again.

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The First Amendment's Establishment Clause prohibits the government from making any law “respecting an establishment of religion.” This clause not only forbids the government from establishing an official religion, but also prohibits government actions that unduly favor one religion over another. It also prohibits the government from unduly preferring religion over non-religion, or non-religion over religion.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/establishment_clause
 
Old 09-07-2015, 08:47 AM
 
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I wish these 'separationists' would just go to Hell.

How very Christian of you.

And a perfect example of why many are so tired of listening to the intolerant, self-righteous alleged 'Christ-like' among us.
And Christian soldiers fought and died so you would have the right to speak that mind of yours in public. Something maybe we should reevaluate.
 
Old 09-07-2015, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Do we really want a government that is corrupt , lies to the people, and runs the country into a declining moral code? Lately I have seen enough of it.
Right. All we have to do is look at history, to see that religious governments are honest and...oh, wait.
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