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Old 09-11-2015, 12:39 PM
 
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The memorial belongs to them, they should be able to dance.

 
Old 09-11-2015, 12:39 PM
 
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Then either fire her, fine her or implement a conscientious objector status for her.
Dear Lord, do we have to go though this again?

It's an elected position, so she can't be fired.
She's backed by a million stupid fundies and the judge decided fines wouldn't be a deterrent. Thet's perfectly within his discretion.
And she refused to let her deputies sign instead of her.

How about she do her job, or quit?
 
Old 09-11-2015, 12:40 PM
 
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I agree. She is wrong. Why is it though that she is treated differently than others that have been found in contempt?
To whom are you referring?
 
Old 09-11-2015, 12:42 PM
 
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To whom are you referring?
I posted a link. I can post more if need be.
 
Old 09-11-2015, 12:48 PM
 
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Then either fire her, fine her or implement a conscientious objector status for her.

Government officials violate federal law every single day and not one of them ever goes to jail for it.
She can't be fired because she's an elected official. She can only be impeached.

If the judge had fined her, someone would have started a GoFundMe campaign and her fine would have been paid immediately. She would not have had an incentive to follow the law.

In essence, conscientious objector status has been granted to her. She's allowed to continue in her job and she does not have to personally issue marriage licenses.

So why do the oathkeepers feel a need to protect her?
 
Old 09-11-2015, 12:52 PM
 
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Dear Lord, do we have to go though this again?

It's an elected position, so she can't be fired.
She's backed by a million stupid fundies and the judge decided fines wouldn't be a deterrent. Thet's perfectly within his discretion.
And she refused to let her deputies sign instead of her.

How about she do her job, or quit?
Weird how the left does a 180 degree turn and then defends the Clintons for violating court orders..
 
Old 09-11-2015, 12:55 PM
 
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So the Oath Keepers are breaking their oath??


I find that ironic.
 
Old 09-11-2015, 12:56 PM
 
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I posted a link. I can post more if need be.
I don't know the ins and outs of the Fast and Furious issue or whether the allegations in the second link about Holder are true at all.

But, assuming it's all true and those in charge of pursuing contempt against Holder or charging him with a crime were derelict in their duties, it doesn't mean that the Judge shouldn't hold Davis in contempt.

When she didn't want to issue the licenses she pursued her right to refuse to the Supreme Court and was denied the relief she sought. What she was left with was an order to issue the licenses. When she refused to do so, people who wanted the licenses went to federal court to get the judge to order her to do so. He did and when she refused, he held her in contempt.

In both instances regarding Holder, you don't have an enforceable court order that a judge can look to as a basis for either holding Holder in contempt or charging him with a crime. You may be 100% right that law enforcement officials are not doing their jobs. But it doesn't have any bearing on the fact that Judge Bunning IS doing his job and upholding the Constitution.
 
Old 09-11-2015, 01:06 PM
 
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How about she do her job, or quit?

...the love of money...
 
Old 09-11-2015, 01:07 PM
 
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So the Oath Keepers are breaking their oath??


I find that ironic.
Ironic, yes. Surprising, not so much.
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