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I don't think anyone disagrees with going after the 15-25% radicals. Obama's waged very successful military campaigns against the worst of them.
Where people take issue is when some Americans have a knee jerk reaction and throw all the rest of the 75-85% of Muslims in the same category as the dangerous ones.
Armed with those figures (15-25% radicals) is it wise to take any simple number (like 10,000) Syrian refugees without doing proper background checks? It is also not wise to just leave our borders open to whoever has the desire/need to come to America.
The panelist, in that video, made a very strong point that we cannot count on the innocent to stop the radicals.
Sorry, I was referring to the panelist who addressed that lady's question. I should have clarified.
Simple. By the panelist saying that because the Germans, Russians, Chinese, and Japanese consisted of mostly peaceful people but that was irrelevant, she is opening up this point to all groups. But who defines what those groups are? All groups are going to have bad actors and shameful pasts if they are large and influential enough. Are you prepared to make the same arguments for white people because of killing of Native Americans and the legacy of slavery and segregation? What about black crime rates, or academic fraud in China and Nigeria? What about the radical feminist argument that men are rapists? Or Christianity's history with the inquisition? Chances are you would not be comfortable with acknowledging that. You cannot add an asterisk excusing your own peaceful behavior while claiming that the peaceful behavior of members of other groups (even though they have bad actors) is irrelevant.
I don't think anyone disagrees with going after the 15-25% radicals. Obama's waged very successful military campaigns against the worst of them.
Where people take issue is when some Americans have a knee jerk reaction and throw all the rest of the 75-85% of Muslims in the same category as the dangerous ones.
I would, they really don't have a good track record as being friendly. Nobody has denounce their actions within their group. It's like they are afraid to voice anything negative. So in my opinion they are all dangerous.
Maybe next time the OP can put a title on the thread instead of keeping it secret. The video is from June 2014, already been brought up here many times. It was a Heritage Foundation Panel to get to the bottom of Benghazi and a Muslim woman asked Brigitte Gabriel a question.
Next time try a search before you start a thread on a vidoe that's a year old.
The session, as usual, quickly moved beyond the specifics of the assaults that left four Americans dead to accusations about the Muslim Brotherhood infiltrating the Obama administration, President Obama funding jihadists in their quest to destroy the United States, Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton attempting to impose Sharia blasphemy laws on Americans and Al Jazeera America being an organ of “enemy propaganda.”
Then Saba Ahmed, an American University law student, stood in the back of the room and asked a question in a soft voice“We portray Islam and all Muslims as bad, but there’s 1.8 billion followers of Islam,” she told them. “We have 8 million-plus Muslim Americans in this country and I don’t see them represented here.”
The woman who responded to the Muslim questioner -- Brigitte Gabriel -- knows Islam first hand.
It is well worth looking her speeches up on youtube.
Yes, I always listen to her when I see that she's on TV.
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I would, they really don't have a good track record as being friendly. Nobody has denounce their actions within their group. It's like they are afraid to voice anything negative. So in my opinion they are all dangerous.
Good point.
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The "moderate Muslims" and "Religion of Peace" memes have outworn what little credibility they ever had.
We should not allow Muslims into this country, period.
I agree. I can't believe all the furor over Ben Carson saying he doesn't think A Muslim should be an American president! It doesn't make a bit of sense for a Muslim to be in that position. I don't believe the people on the news shows acting horrified about it either. You know they agree, just are too afraid to admit because its not PC. Something I'm totally over. Obama's brainwashing tactics didn't work with me.
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Maybe next time the OP can put a title on the thread instead of keeping it secret. The video is from June 2014, already been brought up here many times. It was a Heritage Foundation Panel to get to the bottom of Benghazi and a Muslim woman asked Brigitte Gabriel a question.
Next time try a search before you start a thread on a vidoe that's a year old.
Armed with those figures (15-25% radicals) is it wise to take any simple number (like 10,000) Syrian refugees without doing proper background checks? It is also not wise to just leave our borders open to whoever has the desire/need to come to America.
The panelist, in that video, made a very strong point that we cannot count on the innocent to stop the radicals.
There are intense background checks for refugees and, no, none of this has to do with leaving our borders open for anybody.
I don't think anyone disagrees with targeting terrorists and their sympathizers. My point was that there are a lot of scared people in this country with minimal cultural experience who think all Muslims fit that category.
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