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Old 10-08-2015, 07:33 PM
 
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No worries. Obama is gonna bail me out.
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Old 10-08-2015, 07:45 PM
 
Location: it depends
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Yep... I'm shorting the market fairly heavily at the moment. When the market rises because it believes the FED will raise rates, only to jump when the FED fails to... you know things are wonky!

All we need is to have retail investors bail for a couple of days and all those HFT's will start bailing as well, and it'll roll the market.
ummm, retail investors have been baiing all year long, and most of the last six years. HFT's buy and sell, buy and sell, no real net effect on the market except to make it swing more in the very short term. Some sentiment measures are at multi-year lows, hardly a sign of a top. The Fed's effect on the market is probably overstated.

Thanks for selling to me, I appreciate it. Can you short some more tomorrow and next week?
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Old 10-08-2015, 07:52 PM
 
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Recessions end when metrics cease getting worse.

There were 3 recessions in the 50's and 20% of the people lived in dire poverty. Likely they did not realize the Great Depression had ended.
And metrics get clouded without the real problems getting solved when all of Obama's Fed Picks are pumping QE Trickle Down Economics.

Quantitative Easing is Trickle-Down Economics

https://reason.com/archives/2012/09/13/occupy-the-fed
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Old 10-08-2015, 08:02 PM
 
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You can also include leaders (current and previous) from other countries because they are going through the same scenario. Reality is it's a global orchestrated economic collapse that is well under way and the leaders of participating countries are just doing what they are told to do.

This hits the nail on the head.
It is global in scope.

Their precious globalist utopia is collapsing
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Old 10-08-2015, 08:28 PM
 
Location: North Central Florida
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This hits the nail on the head.
It is global in scope.

Their precious globalist utopia is collapsing

Are you sure about that? Perhaps all of this orchestration is actually building their utopia. Global collapse, with a global (governance) solution........might get them their utopia.

CN.......
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Old 10-08-2015, 08:51 PM
 
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This hits the nail on the head.
It is global in scope.

Their precious globalist utopia is collapsing
They'll claim they didn't print enough money.
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Old 10-08-2015, 09:01 PM
 
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Did I miss something? The Dow closed above 17,000 today - up about 1,000 points in a week or so.

Real estate is through the roof again in most places. Everyone is driving a new car again and pickup trucks cost $60,000 because of the demand, not inflation.
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Old 10-08-2015, 09:26 PM
 
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I hope everyone is getting prepared ...

[URL="http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/oct/07/next-financial-crash-is-coming-imf-global-stability-report"]Next financial crash is coming – and before we've fixed flaws from last one[/URL]

That is the message from the [URL="http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/gfsr/2015/02/index.htm"]International Monetary Fund’s latest Global Financial Stability report[/URL], which will make sobering reading for the finance ministers and central bankers gathered in Lima, Peru, for its annual meeting.

We need it. However, I'm not too sure the USA will survive it in tact. Very few people like this country, both at home or around the globe. In a catastrophe where people don't come together you get decline. If 9/11 happened today, who knows how we would respond. We might not be able to.
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Old 10-08-2015, 09:31 PM
 
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Did I miss something? The Dow closed above 17,000 today - up about 1,000 points in a week or so.

Real estate is through the roof again in most places. Everyone is driving a new car again and pickup trucks cost $60,000 because of the demand, not inflation.
Incomes are down, homeless rates have skyrocketed, gay marriage is legal, and Russia is defending it's values in oil land.

How do you say, short the USA.
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Old 10-08-2015, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Did I miss something? The Dow closed above 17,000 today - up about 1,000 points in a week or so.
Real estate is through the roof again in most places. Everyone is driving a new car again and pickup trucks cost $60,000 because of the demand, not inflation.
You did, you missed the memo that this is the Chicken Little, aka "The Sky is Falling" thread
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