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Old 10-12-2015, 04:29 PM
 
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All the more reason to ban all guns. Americans should not be allowed access to guns because they aren't sane enough to be able to handle them safely. Especially the gun nuts.
Please, give us your true definition of a gun nut, since you have the inability to tell us what an assault weapon is....

 
Old 10-12-2015, 04:34 PM
 
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The first step is to ban all guns. Then possession of a gun is prima facie evidence of a felony. A trained dog alerting to ammo is probable cause for a police search. Rewards can be given more reasonably, because mere possession of a gun is all the person has to show to claim the reward, without complications of whether the person has a right to the gun. We can confiscate all guns if they're all banned. Anything less, there would be too many complications.

The whole idea that the founding fathers wanted us to have guns for defense against a bad government, that idea being used by the gun nuts now to try to support their position, is absurd. It's a very different world now. Unjust governments use chemical and biological weapons to subdue armed resistance. The guns that would be used for such armed resistance, are instead used for keeping our country barbaric, with bloodshed everywhere. Street gangs started by children use their parents' guns to intimidate other children into joining the gangs. Their parents drink and do drugs, and leave their guns lying around. Neighborhoods deteriorate till everyone has metal bars on their windows, and children getting hit by the crossfire almost constantly. And gun nuts support that kind of society. I'm still waiting for the "solution" to that insanity.

Guilty until proven innocent....your leftist wet dream.....

Thank you for not being able to make laws....
 
Old 10-12-2015, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Southeast Michigan
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Originally Posted by eok View Post
The first step is to ban all guns. Then possession of a gun is prima facie evidence of a felony. A trained dog alerting to ammo is probable cause for a police search. Rewards can be given more reasonably, because mere possession of a gun is all the person has to show to claim the reward, without complications of whether the person has a right to the gun. We can confiscate all guns if they're all banned. Anything less, there would be too many complications.

The whole idea that the founding fathers wanted us to have guns for defense against a bad government, that idea being used by the gun nuts now to try to support their position, is absurd. It's a very different world now. Unjust governments use chemical and biological weapons to subdue armed resistance. The guns that would be used for such armed resistance, are instead used for keeping our country barbaric, with bloodshed everywhere. Street gangs started by children use their parents' guns to intimidate other children into joining the gangs. Their parents drink and do drugs, and leave their guns lying around. Neighborhoods deteriorate till everyone has metal bars on their windows, and children getting hit by the crossfire almost constantly. And gun nuts support that kind of society. I'm still waiting for the "solution" to that insanity.
The hundred or so millions of legal gun owners have far better track record than drivers.
 
Old 10-12-2015, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Planet Earth
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Another goofball gun controller.

Knives are used more often to kill people than so called assault weapons. You'd think somone with intelligence would see that and not prove how uninformed they are. Sanders can't help himself.

Proof:https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc...#disablemobile

Numbers don't lie so why do gun control people?
LOL He's from a state which doesn't require a permit to carry. Keep grasping rightists, keep grasping.



The state of Vermont neither issues nor requires a permit to carry a weapon on one's person, openly or concealed. This permissive stance on gun control known in the US as Constitutional carry, since one's "permit" is said to be the constitution. For many decades, Vermont was the only state where this was the case (hence the alternative term Vermont carry).[2] Vermont law does not distinguish between residents and non-residents of the state; both have the same right to carry permit-free while in Vermont.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Vermont
 
Old 10-12-2015, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Detroit
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Yea, wiki....HAhahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


So, you admit you did not even read my link....

Again, if you would listen, and put your chest to the side, what you provided is what a person thinks is an assault weapon, not what it actually is...my link provides you this info....but to you, you take wiki over FACTS......congrats...
I read until the fifth slide where it started talking about how the assault weapons ban didn't work. Typical right wing link posted by a complete nub. What can I say.

Here, let's actually look at facts from DisasterCenter. Notice how the violent crime rate went down the most during the five year period following the assault weapons ban (1995-2000)?

US violent crime rate per 100k in 1985 - 555.6
US violent crime rate per 100k in 1990 - 731.8
US violent crime rate per 100k in 1995 - 684.5
US violent crime rate per 100k in 2000 - 506.5
US violent crime rate per 100k in 2005 - 469.0
US violent crime rate per 100k in 2010 - 404.5

A similar thing happened with the murder rate. Hmmmmm. Funny how facts don't agree with your agenda.

US murder rate per 100k in 1985 - 8.0
US murder rate per 100k in 1990 - 9.4
US murder rate per 100k in 1995 - 8.2
US murder rate per 100k in 2000 - 5.5
US murder rate per 100k in 2005 - 5.6
US murder rate per 100k in 2010 - 4.8
 
Old 10-12-2015, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Planet Earth
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https://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-gun-laws/vermont/

Vermont laws...
 
Old 10-12-2015, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Florida
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The hundred or so millions of legal gun owners have far better track record than drivers.
We don't really know that. We don't know anything about 'legal gun owners' because they want to keep everything hidden and secret. Shhh--if we find out who they are, we will come for their guns.
 
Old 10-12-2015, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Detroit
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Wow, I didn't realize they were that bad regarding lack of gun control. Luckily there really isn't any big cities in that state... people are spread out and crime rates are really low.
 
Old 10-12-2015, 05:14 PM
 
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Wow, I didn't realize they were that bad regarding lack of gun control. Luckily there really isn't any big cities in that state... people are spread out and crime rates are really low.
Maine is the same way. ...no permit needed to carry<---goes into effect soon, people at the store said they would bring their guns in--in case some bath salt freak tries to do something crazy while they count $$ at the end of the night.
 
Old 10-12-2015, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Detroit
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We don't really know that. We don't know anything about 'legal gun owners' because they want to keep everything hidden and secret. Shhh--if we find out who they are, we will come for their guns.
There's way less than a 100 million gun owners in the US. That would be like 1 in 2 adults. In reality, only 1 in 3 adults own one or more guns. And about half of gun owners rarely or never use or carry their gun/s, and another quarter only use them to hunt. Meaning only 1 in 12 adults conceal carry regularly. Gun ownership rates vary considerably between states, with ownership in liberal states being far lower than ownership in traditional conservative and former Confederate states.
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