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Old 10-13-2015, 05:26 PM
 
Location: SC
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For Conservatives....

The gun shop that sold the weapons has been ordered to pay. Great news for cop supporters.

For liberals... (defined as those wanting more gun control)

In addition, this may open the door for anyone who is injured by a gun to sue the seller in some cases.

A great day for EVERYONE!

Gun Shop Ordered To Pay $6 Million For Selling Weapon That Injured Police Officers
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Old 10-13-2015, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Very interesting. The gun shop sold a gun, to which they knew was a straw purchaser.

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A jury late Tuesday afternoon found for two wounded police officers in their nationally watched lawsuit against Badger Guns and awarded the officers $5 million.
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Badger Guns and Badger Outdoors were top sellers of crime guns recovered in Milwaukee for more than a decade. In 2005, Badger Outdoors was the top seller of crime guns in the nation with 537 such weapons recovered.
Wiped Clean | A Journal Sentinel Watchdog Update - Jury finds for wounded officers in Badger Guns lawsuit


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The ruling came in a negligence lawsuit that the officers filed against the owners and operators of Badger Guns. The suit alleged the shop allowed an illegal sale despite several warning signs that should have prompted a store clerk to stop the transaction and know the gun was being sold to a "straw buyer," or someone who was buying the gun for someone who couldn't legally do so.
http://abc7chicago.com/news/wi-gun-shop-ordered-to-pay-$6m-to-injured-police-officers/1031692/
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Old 10-13-2015, 06:33 PM
 
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I don't see any ground breaking information here. Some interesting points maybe.

So the gun shop made an illegal sale and the courts held the owner responsible over that illegal sale. I have a feeling everyone supports that.

What I'm wondering and maybe they did and there simply isn't a mention of it, but why wasn't the owner criminally prosecuted?

Seems to me that many of our problems arise from not enforcing the laws in the books.
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Old 10-13-2015, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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I don't see any ground breaking information here. Some interesting points maybe.

So the gun shop made an illegal sale and the courts held the owner responsible over that illegal sale. I have a feeling everyone supports that.

What I'm wondering and maybe they did and there simply isn't a mention of it, but why wasn't the owner criminally prosecuted?

Seems to me that many of our problems arise from not enforcing the laws in the books.
Hopefully, this verdict will send a message to those sellers that choose not to do required background checks and screenings.
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Old 10-13-2015, 07:06 PM
 
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Hopefully, this verdict will send a message to those sellers that choose not to do required background checks and screenings.
One would think the law and the enforcement of the law would do that.

Did the bankers really care that their banks were sued even though they themselves got off free?
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Old 10-13-2015, 07:13 PM
 
Location: United States
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Hopefully, this verdict will send a message to those sellers that choose not to do required background checks and screenings.
I didn't see anywhere that a background check was not done, it was deemed a straw purchase.
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Old 10-13-2015, 07:25 PM
 
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The jury did not find the owners of Badger Guns and Badger Outdoors conspired to sell guns unlawfully.
Wiped Clean | A Journal Sentinel Watchdog Update - Jury finds for wounded officers in Badger Guns lawsuit

From the link in posted by jojan....
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Old 10-13-2015, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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I didn't see anywhere that a background check was not done, it was deemed a straw purchase.
The dude who did the straw purchase wasn't even smart enough to not check the "no" box to the question, 'Are you the actual buyer?" He checked the "no" box, yet the gun shop still sold him the gun.

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Collin's forms contained several corrections. When asked "Are you the actual buyer?" Collins checked the “no” box, but then crossed it out and checked "yes.”
Badger Guns clerk who sold gun used to shoot police officers testifies | Local News - WISN Home
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Old 10-13-2015, 07:28 PM
 
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Hopefully, this verdict will send a message to those sellers that choose not to do required background checks and screenings.

Where in the links provided before y post state they did not do a back ground check?

For that matter, what are the 4 out of 5 laws they violated?

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The jury found that the Badger Guns had broken four of the five laws proposed to them in selling the gun and that the store "negligently entrusted" the firearm used to shoot the officers.
From the link you posted also....
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Old 10-13-2015, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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If the gun shop sold a gun to someone who legally could not have it they should be held responsible just like a bar is when they don't check an ID and the underage kid they just sold to wraps his moms car around a tree on the way home.

Another angle on this a guy buys a car at a dealership then hands the keys to his drunk buddy who drives it head on into a school bus which bursts into flames. Does the car dealership get sued?

In the end Illegal should be illegal and if someone violates the law there should be repercussions for it.
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