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Old 10-25-2015, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I went to college in the late 80's, early 90's.
College of Engineering, major was Computer Science.

More Asians and Indians then Americans.

Insulting or not, America is not producing highly skilled college graduates.
We have great colleges though and students from all over the world come here to get college educations.

So it's not our schools.

Here's the majors many American students take: women's studies, Star Wars, cannabis cultivation, fermentation studies, creative writing, floral management, and I can go on and on.

Here's the majors international students take: Business Management, Engineering, Math, Computer Science, Physical/Life Science.

This gleamed from admissions data which is all over the web via 5 minutes of googling.

So yeah..the US is hurting for top talent.
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Old 10-25-2015, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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You want more US talent then fix the K-12 systems.

Over 60% of college students that chose stem fields switched their major out of stem fields.

Why ? THE MATH WAS TOO HARD.

2014 study by our own government.

http://nces.ed.gov/pubs2014/2014001rev.pdf
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Old 10-25-2015, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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I went to college in the late 80's, early 90's.
College of Engineering, major was Computer Science.

More Asians and Indians then Americans.

Insulting or not, America is not producing highly skilled college graduates.
We have great colleges though and students from all over the world come here to get college educations.

So it's not our schools.

Here's the majors many American students take: women's studies, Star Wars, cannabis cultivation, fermentation studies, creative writing, floral management, and I can go on and on.

Here's the majors international students take: Business Management, Engineering, Math, Computer Science, Physical/Life Science.

This gleamed from admissions data which is all over the web via 5 minutes of googling.

So yeah..the US is hurting for top talent.


But But, if we ever need a buttload of graphic artists, we're set!!!!
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Old 10-25-2015, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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I'm wondering what you guys think of this. Politicians on both sides of the aisle are always talking about how we need to bring in more "top talent" from around the globe.
That's because your education system sucks.


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(1) How insulting! What American companies and the politicians they buy are saying is that they can't find among the 300+ Americans, tens of millions of whom are unemployed, enough "talent." We're too "lazy" and "stupid".
That's true.

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(2) Why is America responsible for providing jobs for all the talented people across the globe? Why can't India and China find a way to use all their talent?
India and China are behind the curve catching up. Catch up they will, at your expense. Too bad for you.

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(3) How did America grow for so many years relying on its own talent pool alone?
You had a decent education system right up to the point the Liberals destroyed it.

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This is corporate greed to screw americans from good jobs. Why pay an american with 110k in student loans $150,000 a year as a programmer in the Silicone Valley, when you can hire an indian to work for $60,000 and hot bunk with four pals in a studio.
Then you need to follow their example.
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Old 10-25-2015, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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But But, if we ever need a buttload of graphic artists, we're set!!!!
Until photoshop stops working
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Old 10-25-2015, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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Until photoshop stops working
Oh yeah, sure... Rain on my parade..
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Old 10-25-2015, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Huh? The first programmable computer was invented in Germany not in America.

Konrad Zuse -
The first programmable, digital computer


IBM bought his patents...
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Old 10-25-2015, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Huh? The first programmable computer was invented in Germany not in America.

Konrad Zuse -
The first programmable, digital computer
That's digital.

How'a about Charles Babbage ?
And the first "programmer" was a girl..Ada Lovelace


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Babbage
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Old 10-25-2015, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Itinerant
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You mean like developing the nuclear bomb? Oops.
Using Italian (Fermi), Danish (Bohr), English (French ironically), Hungarian (von Neumann), Austro-Hungarian (Teller), German (Einstein) immigrants, seems like more things change the more they stay the same.

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Or maybe contact lenses. Oops.
That was Leonardo da Vinci, a well known renaissance artist, inventor, and engineer, born in Little Italy NYC clearly. After him there was Rene Descartes, Thomas Young (Somerset England), Sir John Herschel. First functional contact corrective lens was by Adolf Gaston Eugen Fick in Zurich (no not Zurich Ohio), and not to be confused with his uncle Adolph Eugen Fick who created Ficks law of diffusion.

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Or maybe AC current and the electric coil? Oops.
Nikola Tesla (Croatia) ring any bells, he was responsible for Westinghouse moving towards AC, actual AC had been around since Faraday.

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Or perhaps the first programmable computer in 1936? Oops.
Charles Babbage invented the first programmable computer, As already mentioned Zuse invented the first binary programmable computer.

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Shall I go on?
Please do, as I mentioned above the more things change the more they stay the same. Most famous American inventions appear to have been invented by immigrants, or not actually at all in the US.
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Old 10-25-2015, 03:42 PM
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Charles Babbage invented the first programmable computer, As already mentioned Zuse invented the first binary programmable computer.
Then again:

"Binary, Decimal and Error Detection

"Babbage's calculating engines are decimal digital machines. They are decimal in that they use the familiar ten numbers '0' to '9' and they are digital in the sense that only whole numbers are recognized as valid. Number values are represented by gear wheels and each digit of a number has its own wheel. If a wheel comes to rest in a position intermediate between whole number values, the value is regarded as indeterminate and the engine is designed to jam to indicate that the integrity of the calculation has been compromised. Jamming is a form of error-detection.

"Babbage considered using number systems other than decimal including binary as well as number bases 3, 4, 5, 12, 16 and 100. He settled for decimal out of engineering efficiency - to reduce the number of moving parts - as well as for their everyday familiarity."

The Engines | Babbage Engine | Computer History Museum
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