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Old 10-28-2015, 07:28 PM
 
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How is/was life under Assad, Saddam, Qaddafi, and Taliban? For the average citizen of course.

I ask in this forum because obviously, we killed Saddam, helped oust Qaddafi if not actually the real culprit in deposing him, knocked the Taliban from power, and are now trying to eliminate Assad.

For the average citizen, was life not too bad under those people? Saddam kept sectarian violence and moslem extremism down. He also modernized his country. They had hospitals, women went to school. Assad is a western educated eye doctor. How bad was Syria under his rule? Was he using people for illegal medical experiments?
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Old 10-28-2015, 08:14 PM
 
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Not all that good and I didn't lose a bit of sleep over it.
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Old 10-28-2015, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Life was far better under Saddam than it is today. Today they have a corrupt, powerless government and the country is carved up into fiefdoms ruled by warlords and gangsters. None of that was the case under Saddam. That country had to have a strong, even brutal, ruler to keep together a nation created by Western powers.
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Old 10-28-2015, 09:23 PM
 
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Saddam wasn't a nice guy, but he kept his country stable. Now, it's basically the hunger games with turbans.
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Old 10-28-2015, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I knows some Kurds who have said life under Saddam was oppressive.
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Old 10-28-2015, 09:46 PM
 
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It was probably better living under an iron-fisted dictator......as opposed to worrying about the
Jihad-of-the-week group taking over your town and sawing off heads.
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Old 10-28-2015, 11:49 PM
 
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What about under Qaddafi, and Assad?
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Old 10-29-2015, 02:23 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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What about under Qaddafi, and Assad?
The same as it was under Saddam, none of our business.
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Old 10-29-2015, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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The question is, does it merit an outside power to send in troops to overthrow those regimes? Yes, they were oppressive. However, getting rid of them creates a power vacuum in these countries where various parties and groups jockey for power. That's how ISIS or IS got their opportunity to be where they're now.
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Old 10-29-2015, 11:07 AM
 
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How is/was life under Assad, Saddam, Qaddafi, and Taliban? For the average citizen of course.

I ask in this forum because obviously, we killed Saddam, helped oust Qaddafi if not actually the real culprit in deposing him, knocked the Taliban from power, and are now trying to eliminate Assad.

For the average citizen, was life not too bad under those people? Saddam kept sectarian violence and moslem extremism down. He also modernized his country. They had hospitals, women went to school. Assad is a western educated eye doctor. How bad was Syria under his rule? Was he using people for illegal medical experiments?
" He also modernized his country" He also used electricity as 'tool".

If he didn't like what some areas did, he turned the electricity off.


"They had hospitals,"

What county doesn't?

We spent a lot of time and money to '"repair" the existing hospitals because they were in such bad shape.

"women went to school."

I don't think they did.

I guess you don't remember the handcuffs and chains on pipes with the "paper" shredder beneath them in the "children" prisons.

He ruled with a viscous iron fist.

He held them in check through sheer fear of what he would do to anyone who disobeyed him.

"IRAQ: Deaths under Saddam Hussein

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Tom Grey answers David Crow's request the empirical basis for his statement on the number of dead under Saddam Hussein. "See [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]http://www.gbn.org/ArticleDisplaySer...=2400&msp=1242 Here is an excerpt:":Along with other human rights organizations, The Documental Centre for Human Rights in Iraq has compiled documentation on over 600,000 civilian executions in Iraq. Human Rights Watch reports that in one operation alone, the Anfal, Saddam killed 100,000 Kurdish Iraqis. Another 500,000 are estimated to have died in Saddam's needless war with Iran. Coldly taken as a daily average for the 24 years of Saddam's reign, these numbers give us a horrifying picture of between 70 and 125 civilian deaths per day for every one of Saddam's 8,000-odd days in power"[/SIZE]


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