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Old 11-08-2015, 04:34 PM
 
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They are entitled to whatever they earn and produce. No more, no less. Everything given to someone that didn't earn it was taken by force from someone that did.
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Old 11-08-2015, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Right-wingers = psychopaths

Why can't they pretend their tax money goes toward the military industrial complex they adore so much? Or the corporations they defend so vigorously? Because that's where the VAST majority of their tax money actually is spent.
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Old 11-08-2015, 04:39 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I'm pretty sure the bible says paraphrasing, "if you don't work you don't et", "let him who steals, steal no more and work", "don't cast your pearls before swine". I'm pretty sure it teaches that but I'm no expert.
My beef is with the OP judging the worth of people. People she doesn't even know.

Jesus said 'judge not, lest ye be judged'.

He also said 'vengeance is mine..'.

The OP wants to judge, AND obviously wants vengeance on people she doesn't even know and will probably never meet.
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Old 11-08-2015, 04:43 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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If liberals want everyone taken care of why do they support the mass immigration and overpopulation from cultures of failure? Why do liberals support it in Sweden and other European countries which will collapse their socialist systems? You just can't have open borders to the rest of the world of overpopulation, poverty and failure and take care of everyone. You need a close system of productive people. Population growth does not increase per capita resources. If you spread all the wealth to everyone in the world, who by the way didn't even create it, you end up with everyone being equally poor.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE
Liberals ought to put their money where the big mouths are. A good majority talk smack, and never listen to their own advice.

Good post, good to see some actually use their brain.

A person who goes to college and has earned scholarships, in college for 6 to 7 years, works 2 and 3 jobs at the same time. Then you have your typical non thinker, min wage is fine, and spends all their money on crap, they cannot afford, I know people like this. Does not merit in any shape way or form, what the person who went to college has. Always be those who talk smack, and want something others earned, and those who believe in earning their own way. Which do I respect, guess which one.

You want what others have earned, then you go earn it yourself and be worthy of yourself.
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Old 11-08-2015, 04:50 PM
 
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Because if you don't have food or shelter you will die? I thought that was super obvious folks.
You would need some kind of healthcare if you say had a heart attack or cancer. If it's a mild illness it's still important to get help for it because it could turn into something worse (which I imagine would cost more money) Although I obviously don't think we need all this medicine. Sometimes you might as well be injecting poison.
I hate talking on the phone but a phone is important for getting a job and also for making doctor's appointments.
College is unnecessary on the other hand unless it guarantees you a job.


I do think welfare is a problem but it's not the biggest problem. There are bigger fish to fry than welfare abuse.
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Old 11-08-2015, 04:55 PM
 
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My beef is with the OP judging the worth of people. People she doesn't even know.

Jesus said 'judge not, lest ye be judged'.

He also said 'vengeance is mine..'.

The OP wants to judge, AND obviously wants vengeance on people she doesn't even know and will probably never meet.
Jesus did not confiscate others wealth, too. Make you a deal, we go back to that, and we can add back all the other stuff he said.
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Old 11-08-2015, 04:57 PM
 
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Jesus did not confiscate others wealth, too. Make you a deal, we go back to that, and we can add back all the other stuff he said.
No, liberals just want to cherry-pick the parts that benefit them. And for the record, I'm not religious. So the liberal bible-shaming means nothing to me. It's just another one of their attempts to re-direct the topic.
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Old 11-08-2015, 05:00 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Because if you don't have food or shelter you will die? I thought that was super obvious folks.
You would need some kind of healthcare if you say had a heart attack or cancer. If it's a mild illness it's still important to get help for it because it could turn into something worse (which I imagine would cost more money) Although I obviously don't think we need all this medicine. Sometimes you might as well be injecting poison.
I hate talking on the phone but a phone is important for getting a job and also for making doctor's appointments.
College is unnecessary on the other hand unless it guarantees you a job.


I do think welfare is a problem but it's not the biggest problem. There are bigger fish to fry than welfare abuse.

Most people I know who have a college degree or degrees. Earn their salary believe me, my Son who did go to college for 7 years and earned every bit of the good grades he received. Earns every freaken penny he makes. Lets just say at 24 years of age, he was making at that time what some people dream they could win. And he earned every bit of it.

No one is saying people do not deserve food and shelter, or healthcare. But does not mean at the same time that you should take from those who earn a decent wage because they believe in education.

Most people I come in contact with, who make a very good wage, have college educations. Welfare is a problem, when you have people receiving it, who do not deserve it period. I know I have friends and some family members who work for S.S. offices. And I hear the nonsense people come up with, in order to receive such benefits. The lies, just to receive something for nothing. I hear it all the time, especially in the High Desert Regions.
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Old 11-08-2015, 05:04 PM
 
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... my Son who did go to college for 7 years and earned every bit of the good grades he received. Earns every freaken penny he makes.
He's probably earned more than he actually makes. But of course, the entitlement class has to take their cut first.
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Old 11-08-2015, 05:05 PM
 
Location: No Mask For Me This Time, Either
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Oh, how you right-wing Christians forget your bible teachings (when it's convenient).

BTW, I make a lot more money than you do, and pay more taxes.
I am neither Christian nor do I subscribe to the beliefs professed in the Bible. You're making wild and incorrect assumptions.

And I doubt it.
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