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The Spaniards have caused irreversible damage to the indigenous peoples of Mexico, Caribbean, as well as the Central and South Americas. They stole their gold, caused a bloodbath, wiped out native languages, and destroyed one of the biggest and most important cities in the Western Hemisphere. Shouldn't the Spanish leaders apologize for all the atrocities of the 16th century?
They did no more than the other Europeans or the Portuguese. The Europeans(us) killed most of the North American natives and Portugal, many of the South American.
The Spaniards have caused irreversible damage to the indigenous peoples of Mexico, Caribbean, as well as the Central and South Americas. They stole their gold, caused a bloodbath, wiped out native languages, and destroyed one of the biggest and most important cities in the Western Hemisphere. Shouldn't the Spanish leaders apologize for all the atrocities of the 16th century?
What would that accomplish, understand that you cant use 21st century morality or sensibilities on the actions of 16th century people.
No. No one needs to apologize for a past era when no one is alive from that era. The Spanish had native allies, who were enemies of the other native tribes. Spain was invaded in the past as all of Europe has been numerous times. The whole world was operating under the right of conquest until about the 1930's. Muslims still operate under conquest. No one ever apologized for being the victor.
They did no more than the other Europeans or the Portuguese. The Europeans(us) killed most of the North American natives and Portugal, many of the South American.
Spain's form of colonialism was easily the worst out of all countries, along with Belgium. The French in many cases worked alongside the indigenous people, while the British at least made attempts at compromises. Spain didn't even have the courtesy of creating a treaty, they just raped and pillaged everything
No. No one needs to apologize for a past era when no one is alive from that era. The Spanish had native allies, who were enemies of the other native tribes. Spain was invaded in the past as all of Europe has been numerous times. The whole world was operating under the right of conquest until about the 1930's. Muslims still operate under conquest. No one ever apologized for being the victor.
Nope, not accurate. If I tell you I am going to slave you, but I will let you live a little longer if you show where the other tribes are, thats hardly an ally. At any rate that does not even apply to South America most of South America was occupied by the Incas, there was no competing tribes the only allies that the Spaniards had were germs and steel.
The Europeans(us) killed most of the North American natives and Portugal, many of the South American.
There weren't very many natives in what's now US and Canada when the British/US colony first began in ~1600. Many had already died from disease and other hardships at the time. Native tribes rose and fell before Europeans arrived. White settlers fought natives, natives fought settlers, natives fought other tribes of natives. Most of the natives in America weren't actively killed by Europeans, but by not having immunity to Old world disease and loss of land to live off of.
The Spaniards have caused irreversible damage to the indigenous peoples of Mexico, Caribbean, as well as the Central and South Americas. They stole their gold, caused a bloodbath, wiped out native languages, and destroyed one of the biggest and most important cities in the Western Hemisphere. Shouldn't the Spanish leaders apologize for all the atrocities of the 16th century?
Interesting, isn't it? Despite all that, Latin Americans typically do not resent Spain but rather identify with the white Spanish or Portuguese part of their heritage. There are few calls for reparations from these countries. All the resentment seems to be reserved for English speaking people.
The Spaniards have caused irreversible damage to the indigenous peoples of Mexico, Caribbean, as well as the Central and South Americas. They stole their gold, caused a bloodbath, wiped out native languages, and destroyed one of the biggest and most important cities in the Western Hemisphere. Shouldn't the Spanish leaders apologize for all the atrocities of the 16th century?
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Originally Posted by The Dark Enlightenment
Interesting, isn't it? Despite all that, Latin Americans typically do not resent Spain but rather identify with the white Spanish part of their heritage. There are few calls for reparations from Spain. All the resentment seems to be reserved for English speaking people.
Agreed and HOW!
Tho Spain doesn't "owe" LatAm in 2015 a thing since Spain was booted out 100 to 200 years ago from there.
Nope, not accurate. If I tell you I am going to slave you, but I will let you live a little longer if you show where the other tribes are, thats hardly an ally. At any rate that does not even apply to South America most of South America was occupied by the Incas, there was no competing tribes the only allies that the Spaniards had were germs and steel.
The first conquest in the Americas was Cortez against the Aztecs in what's now Mexico City. There were many other tribes the Aztecs were at odds with. Cortez was attacked by a tribe who hated the Aztecs. And the tribe's leader decided it would be better to ally with the Spanish against their enemies than try to kill them all. The Incas were a divided empire at war when Pizarro met them. He had only about 160 Spanish men and couldn't possible forced all his native allies to be allies. The Spanish certainly took advantage of their native allies, but it's not as simple and one sided as you make it. It was basically kill and dominate or be killed and dominated. You need to read the history.
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