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The citations you've supplied in this thread don't apply to Syrian Christian refugees as a whole.
They only apply to Syrian refugees that applied to the United States.
Holy hell -- YOU are the one who responded to something I said, not the other way around.
It appears you're just trying to silence people who don't blindly accept your unsupported claims.
LOL my "unsupported claims." BS. The many sources that I have linked to throughout this thread, supporting my views, do not "only apply to Syrian refugees that applied to the US." And I'm not trying to silence anyone - feel free to continue to overlook, misapply, twist, or otherwise argue about anything I or anyone else says - it's not like I have any ability to silence you or anyone else on this forum. If your answers interest me, I'll respond. If not, I won't. That's not "silencing" you or anyone else.
LOL my "unsupported claims." BS. The many sources that I have linked to throughout this thread, supporting my views, do not "only apply to Syrian refugees that applied to the US."
I see no citations of yours that give statistics for all Syrian Christian refugees.
Which is required in order for your claims to be 'supported by evidence.'
I see no citations of yours that give statistics for all Syrian Christian refugees.
Which is required in order for your claims to be 'supported by evidence.'
I am not nor have I ever claimed that the only group of Syrian Christians I have been discussing are REFUGEES. Wow, way to move the goal posts. I've been discussing the plight of Syrian Christians in general - not only Syrian Christian refugees. The exact question that Finn and I have been batting around is "HOW MANY SYRIAN CHRISTIANS ARE ACTUALLY REFUGEES AND IF SO, WHERE HAVE THEY BEEN GOING?"
Please quit trying to twist my words. Your efforts are very obvious and do nothing to bolster your own credibility.
I am not nor have I ever claimed that the only group of Syrian Christians I have been discussing are REFUGEES. Wow, way to move the goal posts. I've been discussing the plight of Syrian Christians in general - not only Syrian Christian refugees. The exact question that Finn and I have been batting around is "HOW MANY SYRIAN CHRISTIANS ARE ACTUALLY REFUGEES AND IF SO, WHERE HAVE THEY BEEN GOING?"
Please quit trying to twist my words. Your efforts are very obvious and do nothing to bolster your own credibility.
The question I have is how many Christian refugees have been turned back for being Christian. I suspect the number is zero.
The question I have is how many Christian refugees have been turned back for being Christian. I suspect the number is zero.
That's the second question you had though. The first question - one that you and I both raised - was "What percentage of Syrian refugees are Christians?" which is a very valid question considering that ten percent of Syrians (current stats) are Christians, and only three percent of Syrian refugees allowed into the US are Christians.
Hence my delving into whether or not Syrian Christians generally end up in refugee camps (they generally don't and I provided valid sources to back that claim) or whether or not they would be considered political refugees if they applied for political asylum in the US or through the international vetting process in place now (they usually would not be, according to the sources that I cited, because they are not being persecuted by the Syrian GOVERNMENT).
You haven't provided any source to bolster your suspected answer to your second question. And I've never claimed that any Syrian Christians have been denied in the US because they are Christians. So there we have it.
I have, however, pretty well proven my conclusion that a much smaller percentage of Syrian Christians are identified as political refugees because 1) they are often just as persecuted in the refugee camps as outside of them, and 2) they are not classified by other nations or entities as "political refugees" because they are not being persecuted in most cases by the Syrian government, but by ISIS - which is not enough to infer the option of political asylum to them.
So - are Christian Syrians being denied asylum in the US because they're Christians? No. They are not being categorized as political refugees seeking political asylum in most cases.
But the end result for them is tragic all the same - they can't get out of Syria and they are being targeted there by ISIS and persecuted, attacked, and killed in increasing numbers. They have even fewer options than many other Syrians, and that's a sad state of affairs for them.
"The United States' reliance on the United Nations for referrals of Syrian refugees should also be re-evaluated," Arkansas Republican Sens. Tom Cotton and John Boozman said in a statement.
"That reliance unintentionally discriminates against Syrian Christians and other religious minorities who are reluctant to register as refugees with the United Nations for fear of political and sectarian retribution."
"The American people have long demonstrated unmatched compassion for the world's persecuted and endangered," the senators add.
That's the second question you had though. The first question - one that you and I both raised - was "What percentage of Syrian refugees are Christians?" which is a very valid question considering that ten percent of Syrians (current stats) are Christians, and only three percent of Syrian refugees allowed into the US are Christians.
Actually the questions I asked were:
1. How many Syrian Christian refugees apply to come to US, but are rejected by US immigration
2. How many Syrian muslim refugees apply to come to US, but are rejected by US immigration
That is the only way to compare the acceptance / rejection rates in US.
And then I asked how many refugees have been turned back for being Christian.
I said, if I had been a Christian in Syria, I would have left years ago, and I suspect this is the reason why there are so few trying to come to US at this time. If they are not coming to US in the first place (for whatever reason), then it only proves the OP wrong.
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