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Old 12-11-2015, 01:05 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Back in 1972 and 1973 new cars ranged from about $1,000 to about $4,000. Inflation would have arguably quadrupled those values, to $4,000 to $16,000. That is not the range in prices for new cars.
Actually 1972 dollars X 5.69 will equate to today's dollars, so $4,000 would equal $22,760 today. The average price of a new car in 1972 was $3,100, and average individual income was $9,385.
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Old 12-11-2015, 01:11 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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This is a positive step, providing they follow through....

B.C. joins Germany, the Netherlands, Norway, the United Kingdom, along with California and seven other states in pledging to ensure all new vehicles are zero-emissions models by 2050.
B.C. promises by 2050 all new vehicles will have zero-emissions
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Old 12-11-2015, 01:35 AM
 
Location: Oceania
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America's republicans are the only political party on Earth that don't believe in man made global warming.
The Republican Party stands alone in climate denial | Dana Nuccitelli | Environment | The Guardian

And every government in the EU, every government in Asia, every government in Africa, and every government in South America believes in man made global warming.

Why are American republicans the only people on Earth that don't believe in global warming? Because if we combat global warming the large corporations that fund Fox news/Rush radio and give republican politicians campaign money will loose money.

Meet The Climate Denial Machine | Blog | Media Matters for America


(You are the one who got hustled by America's large corporations.)

^^^All socialists. The USA is not. You want to emulate them, you move there.
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Old 12-11-2015, 03:45 AM
 
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This is a positive step, providing they follow through....

B.C. joins Germany, the Netherlands, Norway, the United Kingdom, along with California and seven other states in pledging to ensure all new vehicles are zero-emissions models by 2050.
B.C. promises by 2050 all new vehicles will have zero-emissions
Enjoy walking.
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Old 12-11-2015, 08:11 AM
 
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^^^All socialists. The USA is not. You want to emulate them, you move there.
You're incorrect. Even radically right-wing European parties, that wouldn't get the time of day in the US for being too extremely conservative, are not denying climate change.
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Old 12-11-2015, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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You're incorrect. Even radically right-wing European parties, that wouldn't get the time of day in the US for being too extremely conservative, are not denying climate change.
but no-one is denying climate change....

the fact is the climate has changed many, many times over the last 4 billion years...and its a natural cycle

man has nothing to do with it

the last major ice age peaked (peak cold) about 15,000 to 18,000 years ago...and we have been WARMING since....not a steady warm, but a warming...a few cooler spots during, but general warming

and this has happened a dozen times...and EVERY time the GLOBAL AVERAGE has gone UP to (peak warmth) about 71-75'f, making a very TROPICAL earth..then AFTER THE PEAK..it starts cooling...cooling all the way to another major ice age

this cycle still has a few hundred to a few thousand years(the cycles are not all exactly the same) till we hit the peak warmth

we WILL hit peak warmth (probably NOT within our or children's lifetime), then the earth will cool again...and its all natural


why are the fascist liberals so egotistical to think that man has any play in this at all??????...and why is their only 'solution' another tax????????

liberal solution...a tax.........see everyone, their fascism shows at every turn
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Old 12-11-2015, 08:56 AM
 
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but no-one is denying climate change....

the fact is the climate has changed many, many times over the last 4 billion years...and its a natural cycle

man has nothing to do with it

the last major ice age peaked (peak cold) about 15,000 to 18,000 years ago...and we have been WARMING since....not a steady warm, but a warming...a few cooler spots during, but general warming

and this has happened a dozen times...and EVERY time the GLOBAL AVERAGE has gone UP to (peak warmth) about 71-75'f, making a very TROPICAL earth..then AFTER THE PEAK..it starts cooling...cooling all the way to another major ice age

this cycle still has a few hundred to a few thousand years(the cycles are not all exactly the same) till we hit the peak warmth

we WILL hit peak warmth (probably NOT within our or children's lifetime), then the earth will cool again...and its all natural


why are the fascist liberals so egotistical to think that man has any play in this at all??????...and why is their only 'solution' another tax????????

liberal solution...a tax.........see everyone, their fascism shows at every turn
We factually are changing the environment. Aside from the thousands of scientific papers on the subject (and zero papers disproving them), there are many obvious signs of human impact on the environment. Disappearing tropical forests, extinct species, polluted rivers... why do you believe that the climate is somehow immune to the impact of humanity? Just look out your window and you can probably see ten different ways we've changed the environment. The climate is somehow supposed to be completely independent of every other part of the environment?
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Old 12-11-2015, 09:08 AM
 
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but no-one is denying climate change....

the fact is the climate has changed many, many times over the last 4 billion years...and its a natural cycle

man has nothing to do with it
I completely agree that climate changes naturally, as it has countless times before human beings could start a fire, but to say we have no impact isn't true. Of course human activity has some impact on our climate -- the question is how much are we effecting it? We just don't know (and the data from the 'experts' isn't terribly reliable, as they've been found fudging the numbers to support their preconceived conclusions), and proposing restrictions that hurt economic growth and put higher burdens on the poorest people on the planet seems to be a knee-jerk reaction rather than sensible changes.

Warmists tend to suggest that if we all rode bicycles suddenly the climate would stop changing, which is simply absurd. Regardless, we should be moving towards cleaner and more efficient forms of energy, but its going to be a very long time before all vehicles can be replaced by electric -- good luck running planes, trucks, tractors and construction equipment off batteries.
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Old 12-11-2015, 11:44 AM
 
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Look, trees have been falling down for thousands of years. The notion that a mere human lumberjack could fell a tree is absurd and blasphemous.
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Old 12-11-2015, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I completely agree that climate changes naturally, as it has countless times before human beings could start a fire, but to say we have no impact isn't true. Of course human activity has some impact on our climate -- the question is how much are we effecting it? We just don't know (and the data from the 'experts' isn't terribly reliable, as they've been found fudging the numbers to support their preconceived conclusions), and proposing restrictions that hurt economic growth and put higher burdens on the poorest people on the planet seems to be a knee-jerk reaction rather than sensible changes.

Warmists tend to suggest that if we all rode bicycles suddenly the climate would stop changing, which is simply absurd. Regardless, we should be moving towards cleaner and more efficient forms of energy, but its going to be a very long time before all vehicles can be replaced by electric -- good luck running planes, trucks, tractors and construction equipment off batteries.
Really?

Coming soon: Electric tractors | Tractors content from Farm Industry News

First Electric Garbage Truck In US Hauls 9 Tons Of Chicago Trash

Airbus To Establish Light Electric Aircraft Family | Commercial Aviation content from Aviation Week

Yancey Bros. Hosts Cat D7E Electric Drive Dozer Demos | Story ID: 13639 | Construction Equipment Guide
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