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- Mandatory background checks, safety classes, and IQ tests before being able to purchase a gun. Have licenses similar to a Driver's License.
- However, allow open-carry almost anywhere.
- Enforce severe penalties for careless gun handling and storage, like massive fines or mandatory hard labour.
- Mandatory and swift death penalty for anyone who shoots anyone other than for self-defense.
- However, permit lethal force for self-defense and disallow lawsuits by the wounded criminal. (Yes, that actually happens...)
again I am just being devils advocate, but schools budget's are already tight. How do we pay for this? An armed security guard? Realistically it would have to be more than one. Should this be sponsored through some sort of PTA Fundraiser. Or should the police force be responsible for providing this security? Or through the district as employees?
"How do we pay for this?" Start my getting rid of some the school "administrators" at the local Dept of Education.
Get rid of some of the teacher "aides".
Get rid of some of the useless programs and subjects and get back to the 3 "R"'s.
If it "is for the kids", you can find the money in a bloated bureaucracy.
How do you address the Gun Violence in this country? How do you prevent school shootings?
What is your REAL concern, premature deaths or guns?
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Originally Posted by billydaman
About 30,000 people die as a result of being shot per year, and half of that is by suicide. To give context, there are about 320,000,000 people in our country. Give me a number of what you would consider a practical amount of tolerable gun deaths. Please do not give me a liberal answer of zero, as that is just not possible. When would you consider gun violence under control (hint: The real answer is never, as its an issue that riles up the liberal base, but has no practical importance in the world we live in), liberals love to live in fear of the practically non-existence threat of dying by a gun. The war on guns is nothing more than a political rallying cry.
If premature deaths are your concerns what don't you go after the other causes of premature death that are HIGHER the guns?
In Israel firearms licenses are typically only given if one can prove they have reason to carry a gun – for instance if they work in security or law enforcement or live in a dangerous area like the West Bank. They must also be over 21 years old, a resident of Israel for over three years, and pass a mental and physical exam, a shooting test and background checks by the Public Security Ministry. They are then allowed to order a gun through a gun store with approval of the ministry and given a one-time supply of 50 bullets to take home.
Israel eases gun laws in bid to cope with Palestinian "lone wolf" attacks - Arab-Israeli Conflict - Jerusalem Post
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Everyone good with that criteria?
Depends what we're talking about. This sounds like a fine vetting process for teachers and parents to be allowed to volunteer to be armed guard's in their kids' schools.
If you're talking about using a similar process in order to own a gun at all, I wouldn't be against some of it. I don't think such a law/laws would survive the Supreme Court's scrutiny for long though. And I don't think you've got the whole story as a 50 bullet supply would not be sufficient for regular shooting practice -- something you absolutely do want for gun owners. What you don't want is someone who hasn't shot or handled a gun in 20 years pulling one out. Now that's a disaster waiting to happen!
Looking at your article, those are the laws on the books now -- the ones that they're looking to loosen up because, “Citizens with firearms training are a multiplying force for the police in their fight against terrorism and therefore I will take measures to ease the restrictions at this time.”
Depends what we're talking about. This sounds like a fine vetting process for teachers and parents to be allowed to volunteer to be armed guard's in their kids' schools.
If you're talking about using a similar process in order to own a gun at all, I wouldn't be against some of it. I don't think such a law/laws would survive the Supreme Court's scrutiny for long though. And I don't think you've got the whole story as a 50 bullet supply would not be sufficient for regular shooting practice -- something you absolutely do want for gun owners. What you don't want is someone who hasn't shot or handled a gun in 20 years pulling one out. Now that's a disaster waiting to happen!
Looking at your article, those are the laws on the books now -- the ones that they're looking to loosen up because, “Citizens with firearms training are a multiplying force for the police in their fight against terrorism and therefore I will take measures to ease the restrictions at this time.”
I posted that info because some people seem to regard Israel as a model country for gun freedoms. Not really the case.
We need to stop rewarding ghetto women from becoming baby making factories to increase their income....that would cut the murders in the US in half over time. Teach values in schools, include the 10 Commandments...this will greatly decrease these lone loser murderer freaks. Also we need to identify people that are mentally ill and offer treatments. Lastly yes, enforce reasonable gun control.
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