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JFK was the last one. Signed papers to pull everyone out of Vietnam.
As soon as he was "eliminated" LBJ reversed JFK's decision and we've been at war with someone ever since.
That's BS. He could have pulled them out the first day in office but he didn't.
03-20-2016, 08:52 AM
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Suppose we cut our military spending in half. What are many of your neighbors going to do for a living? What are you?
Are you admitting that our military spending is really just a massively inefficient welfare scheme that has the unfortunate side effects of getting our young people killed, destabilizing entire regions, and breeding extremism?
Are you admitting that our military spending is really just a massively inefficient welfare scheme that has the unfortunate side effects of getting our young people killed, destabilizing entire regions, and breeding extremism?
we you sure as hell don't want Clinton, she's the worst of them. She's the one who set Libya ablaze and kicked off the ISIS problem, which now needs a miltary solution, which needs bombs and missiles paid for by taxpayers dollars much to the delight of her Wall Street backers.
It is 1984 for real, where the people in charge make wars because it's the best way to increase public spending without actually benefitting the public at large.
03-20-2016, 10:45 AM
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we you sure as hell don't want Clinton, she's the worst of them. She's the one who set Libya ablaze and kicked off the ISIS problem, which now needs a miltary solution, which needs bombs and missiles paid for by taxpayers dollars much to the delight of her Wall Street backers.
It is 1984 for real, where the people in charge make wars because it's the best way to increase public spending without actually benefitting the public at large.
Hillary is a hawk but she's not the one who "kicked off the ISIS problem."
She was still first lady when ISIS was formed. She was a senator when they declared an Islamic State in Iraq and took over vast swaths of territory in Iraq. They took over Baqubah and made it their capital back in 2007.
ISIS is a huge problem now almost entirely because of our invasion of Iraq. Prior to that they were reasonable well contained.
Anyone who claims otherwise is just demonstrating their complete ignorance of historical fact.
ISIS is a problem because of the disasterous US supported "arab spring" that brainchild of the Clinton/Obama/Kerry college kid foriegn policy debacle that eventually led to the end of the dictatorships, which as bad as they were still kept a lid on the islamist movement. Once the strongmen of Egypt and Libya were deposed ISIS filled the power vacuum and we have seen the results of that policy. And then the policy geniuses decided to do the same with Syria and you can see the results of that debacle.
Instead of accepting the results of our interference in the middle east the Clinton state department doubled down on stupid. That alone is reason to not elect her.
Oh, and where were they in 2009 when the student in Iran were asking for US aid to overthrow the mullahs? Crickets. They were ready to do the work but wanted some assurance that we would stand behind them but that wouldn't have left the mullahs in power. The powers that be need that conflict to justify their existance and Hilary is their poster child.
"When will we have a candidate who is not a warmonger?"
When the populace decides that it doesn't want one.
This is true. Ron Paul would not have been a warmonger but the majority said no.
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