200+ Troops to Syria, $415M to Kurdish Peshmerga...Your Thoughts? (McCain, Iraq, interview)

[Livejack]

Not sure what to think about this...what a quagmire.

Is this too little, or too much?


Of course, McCain is calling it too little...


Riding on a string of successes against the Islamic State in Iraq, the Pentagon upped the stakes Monday by loosening restrictions on what U.S. troops can do there and sending 200 more servicemembers to support Iraqi forces as they try to recapture the city of Mosul.
The Pentagon will also provide $415 million in aid for Kurdish fighters, called peshmerga, who will play a key role in the effort to retake Iraq's second-largest city. And it offered to assist Iraqi security forces with U.S. Apache attack helicopters, which excel at providing close fire support to help ground troops engaged in urban combat.


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Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, called the troop increase too small to make a difference. "This is yet another example of the kind of grudging incrementalism that rarely wins wars, but could certainly lose one," he said in a statement.


U.S. will send 217 more troops to Iraq to help fight ISIL

[lilyflower3191981]

Originally Posted by Livejack

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, called the troop increase too small to make a difference. "This is yet another example of the kind of grudging incrementalism that rarely wins wars, but could certainly lose one," he said in a statement.


U.S. will send 217 more troops to Iraq to help fight ISIL

If you drop a soldier in the middle of a desert with a rock, a hammer, and an anvil, tell him not to touch any of it, and come back two hours later, the anvil will be broken. "Because soldiers gotta **** with ****". (quoted from an Officer during an interview in which the Officer was asked why barrels were thickened on the M-16A2).

He should have read Murphy's war law

Military Intelligence is a contradiction.

I believe the U.S. should stay away from ME, period. But this being said, It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it.

[pknopp]

Idiots.....and that isn't close to what I want to say. We have heard about these "successes" for years now.

I'm sure we will still the posts where people claim that we have ended the war in Iraq though.

[GregW]

We would have done far better just sending every citizen a refund check with that half billion dollars than to run it through the Kurds so they can steal half before buying weapons from the US.


At least we are not sending half a million troops. Destroying the Islamic rebels is not our duty. It is the Duty of the rest of the Muslims on the planet.

[J.Thomas]

This is just for show, of course it won't mean a thing.

But regardless i'm glad we aren't sending so many troops.

So how many Peshmerga fighters they're talking about??

I assume this is their paycheck.

[GregW]

Hopefully their Ammo bill.

[Snowball7]

It is nothing and they will die.
ISIS and Daesh, al-Nousri all have American weapons
paid for by the Saudis. Turkey aids them also, because
they are against the Kurds.
I believe these troops are sent as an intital excuse for more
troops, so after they are killed, it can be argued more must be sent.

[desertdetroiter]

This is pathetic on the Administration's part. Just more meddling in foreign affairs.

And what string of successes against ISIS?

[J.Thomas]

TBH there is no end in sight in ME.

I'm mixed cause if we get out these terrorist groups will flourish and attack us even harder.

But if we stay we lose our troops and money.

This is a double-edged sword.

[Snowball7]

Originally Posted by J.Thomas

I'm mixed cause if we get out these terrorist groups will flourish and attack us even harder.

This is a fallacy. It is American policies and direct support which has
enabled terrorists to thrive in the Middle East and Northern Africa.
It is American intervention which de-stabilized the entire area, intentionally
so that strong, secular governments who are independent of American/Israeli/Saudi
would be overthrown. Afghanistan, Libya, Iraq, Yemen, Syria are examples,
but they are losing in Syria because Russia bombed the hell out of ISIS.
The U.S. allowed ISIS to march into Palmyra and kill all the Christians.
That is when Russia stepped in to save the Syrian government.
Assad is going nowhere, the US plans will not succeed in the region,
let me tell you why Iraqi Army doesn't want to fight, it is because the
Iraqis do not want to fight on the same side as Americans.
The Iraqi government wants independence and does not want American
soldiers or air power in Iraq. They wanted Russia, however, not the U.S.

If the U.S. really wanted to try and help clean up the mess it created,
it would withdraw completely, support Assad and allow Syria to retake
all its lands. But they will not because Israel is occupying the Golan Heights
which is Syrian land, Israel and Turkey want Assad out, to turn Syria into
a vassal state. It's all in the PNAC documents, this plan is 17-20 years old now
and it's all connected with 9-11 which was caused by the Saudis with Mossad
help to suck America into taking over the Middle East.