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View Poll Results: Should people on terrorist watchlist be barred from legally buying firearms?
Yes 44 65.67%
No 23 34.33%
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Old 06-14-2016, 11:56 AM
 
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GOP blocks bill to stop terrorists from buying guns | MSNBC
12/04/15

Senate Republicans rejected a bill that aims to stop suspected terrorists from legally buying guns, on Thursday. The vote came a day after at least 14 people were killed during the San Bernardino massacre in California by two suspects, including a woman said to have pledged allegiance to ISIS.

I don't know who's worse the GOP or the terrorists. Both are crazier than a sh^thouse rat.
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Old 06-14-2016, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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At least don't allow them to have assault weapons.
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Old 06-14-2016, 12:08 PM
 
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It rather reminds me of a Dilbert cartoon, in which the pointy-haired boss and Catbert (of human resources) are discussing how to find out which worker wrote a disrespectful note about them.


Catbert: "Let us make up a list of suspects, and so narrow the search".


Pointy-hair boss: "After we find the suspect, what do we do about the other people on the list?"


Catbert: "We punish them for simply being on the list".






So it would be here. It is a dangerous thing to ask the US government to start to compile 'lists', and then punish people for simply being on the list.


Perhaps a procedure may be created in which the FBI has a 'suspect' they would like to prohibit from purchasing guns for a period of time, so they have to go to Court to establish probable cause (or, likely, a lesser standard of proof, like preponderance of the evidence or even 'reasonable cause') before adding the name to the 'list'.


Remember J. Edgar Hoover? He did like to make 'lists' of people he suspected of, well, everything, from bring Communist to Gay.
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Old 06-14-2016, 12:10 PM
 
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What's the criteria to be put on a terrorist watch list?
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Old 06-14-2016, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Well we already have no fly lists so why not a No Buy list ?

If someone tries to buy tons of fertilizer and they don't have a farm guess who gets a visit from the FBI. This is thanks to Timothy Mcveigh who used a fertilizer bomb to blow up that federal building.

If you are on a watch list there is a reason you are there and you should be watched. Heck half the countries in the world would pick that person up and he would be lucky to be deported before being tortured to death.
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Old 06-14-2016, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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Deport any of these folks. Anyone associated with Islam extremism doesn't have any rights as far as I'm concerned.
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Old 06-14-2016, 12:21 PM
 
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Well we already have no fly lists so why not a No Buy list ?

If someone tries to buy tons of fertilizer and they don't have a farm guess who gets a visit from the FBI. This is thanks to Timothy Mcveigh who used a fertilizer bomb to blow up that federal building.

If you are on a watch list there is a reason you are there and you should be watched. Heck half the countries in the world would pick that person up and he would be lucky to be deported before being tortured to death.
You sure have a lot of faith in govt.
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Deport any of these folks. Anyone associated with Islam extremism doesn't have any rights as far as I'm concerned.
How do you determine who that is?
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Old 06-14-2016, 12:23 PM
 
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What's the criteria to be put on a terrorist watch list?
and what else was included in the bill? What bill? any links other than crappy msnbc?
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Old 06-14-2016, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Deport any of these folks. Anyone associated with Islam extremism doesn't have any rights as far as I'm concerned.
Deport them where? The Orlando shooter was born in NY.
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Old 06-14-2016, 12:35 PM
 
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So you want to take away someones constitutional rights just because they were put on a list with no due process, and on a list that there is no formal way to be removed from either as far as I know?

This is nothing more than an attempt to divide people by creating what seems like a logical choice which makes you a horrible person if you don't immediately agree with it.

In reality its nothing more than an ill-thought out "solution" that doesn't take into the realities that the no fly list is not exactly a fair tool/process in itself.
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