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Old 06-12-2016, 02:57 PM
 
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He's being sarcastic. Obama is speaking as I type about the massacre in Florida.
And not one word about radical Islam.

Not surprised in the least.
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Old 06-12-2016, 03:00 PM
 
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the shooter was also an American, born here.
So what? The four Muslims who were going to blow up the Canadian Parliment, were born and raised in Canada. It's in the blood.
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Old 06-12-2016, 03:06 PM
 
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His family came here 30 years ago so it's not relevant in this case.
Yes, it is very relevant.

You think because someone was born here it makes them immune to radical ideas? From Canada to France, all these terrorists were born in said country.

This was said after the Paris attacks, well they born in France.

After the Paris attacks I and many others said only a matter of time before we see it here, now we have.

They're loyalty lies with radical Islam.
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Old 06-12-2016, 03:17 PM
 
Location: USA
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Guns did it.
They did, I saw one walking down the street today
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Old 06-12-2016, 03:18 PM
 
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And not one word about radical Islam.

Not surprised in the least.
He used the word "Hate" 5 times because it's an Anti-Trump Dog Whistle.
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Old 06-12-2016, 03:24 PM
 
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Meanwhile CAIR and other Muslims organisation's are often preaching hate in these mosques. Don't let anyone fool you.

We have hundreds of mosques in The Netherlands and many have been caught with recruiting for ISIS and preaching hate.
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Old 06-12-2016, 03:24 PM
 
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So what? The four Muslims who were going to blow up the Canadian Parliment, were born and raised in Canada. It's in the blood.
hate and radicalization is not in the blood it is learned.
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Old 06-12-2016, 03:39 PM
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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I'd argue young muslims in Western countries are more vulnerable to radicalisation due to the lack of resources to learn about their religion in their own countries, especially if they're from fairly secular families. This "us vs them" mentality towards muslims a lot of poorly educated idiots like some of the people on this thread are spreading is exactly what makes them feel unaccepted and isolated in their countries. That's exactly what these recruiters target. We're seeing more and more converts choosing to align themselves with radicals. It's not immigration that's the problem, their families don't want to see their sons and daughters supporting this crazy ****. Many of them are leaving their countries because of the same kinds of radical ideologies spreading
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Old 06-12-2016, 03:40 PM
 
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hate and radicalization is not in the blood it is learned.
Actually it's both. You have to have something inside you to go down this path.
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Old 06-12-2016, 03:55 PM
 
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And not one word about radical Islam.

Not surprised in the least.
They just released information seized from the shooter's apartment with a note on why he did it. Clearly it was his association to terrorism and he mentions Islam in his note. How can the shooter's religion, when he is quoting it, be ignored. This wasn't some isolated hate crime.
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