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one of the surviving victims today in an interview has criticized them taking 3 hours. IMO, she has a point.
not trying to armchair quarterback, but 3 hours?!
Yes, I think 3 hours is too long while people were inside the club dying of their wounds. How many of them bled to death waiting for help? I thought after Columbine they changed the way they handled these situations. Prior to Columbine, in a hostage situation they would try to negotiate them out of the building, but after Columbine the possibility of high casualties changed that tactic. In this case, I think they were afraid of a bomb because he told them on the phone he was wearing a bomb vest.
I'm not sure what the right thing to do would be in any given situation, but I do feel that people probably died unnecessarily due to the long wait.
Easy to judge now, from a computer days after the event, but the fact that it was a known ISIS inspired attacker, I think it is okay to assume it isn't a typical hostage situation. I think it was a huge tactical error. Perhaps that is why the kill count is so high.
Also I find it disturbing that the hostages did not rush the attacker. Yeah I admit it is easy to say now, but I think it was obvious that this guys intent was to kill as many as possible, not a bank robber or something. When you change the mag on an AR15, especially under a stressful situation, there is plenty of time to rush. I fumble around when putting mags in at the range, this is when I am well rested, not scared, no worries, etc. Human beings don't have a fighting spirit anymore. We are told to coward and hide, all these mass shootings are usually just one or two people. A crowd can easily overwhelm them.
1- conflicting reports from callers to 911- some said more than one, alcohol, no description what would have singled him out-- look at the pictures of the victims, the place was weird- a lot of little cubby holes hard to enter. and possible bomb-
there was a negotiator, but this guy had no plan- he was all over the place to some yelling to other saying please be quiet - its hard to determine what is the best course of action - when the caller said was with Isis- I thought they might have tear gassed the place- but he might have shot them all and had a mask? We do not know, and I am sure some died due to immediate care- Many survivors are talking now
There were 320 people inside the dark club when the shooting began, outside of the club.
An armed off duty officer working at the club was the first to engage. Within minutes there were hundreds of LE on site.
Had all LE stormed the front door at once, seems likely the death toll would have been higher.
Had all inside the dark club been armed, likely the death toll could have been higher.
This will be analyzed for eternity. I was not there and have no opinion.
Turn the ****ing lights on...DUH!!!!!
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