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Old 06-15-2016, 09:49 AM
 
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Why have 80% of domestic terrorist attacks in the US have been committed by US citizen Muslims and not Muslims fresh off the boat?

Second question, how is the ban going to work against Muslim-Americans?
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Old 06-15-2016, 09:56 AM
 
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It wont- lose screws are lose screws- they can put on any name and identify with whatever floats their boat- still lose screws- Other domestic terror threats:
- Eco-terrorists and animal rights extremists

- Sovereign citizens movement
- Anarchist Extremism
- Militia Extremism
- White Supremacy Extremism
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Domestic terrorism cases past and present:
- Daniel San Diego
- Demetrius Van Crocker
- Gale Nettles
- Oklahoma City bombing
- The Unabomber
- Eric Rudolph: Part 1 | Part 2
- Matthew Hale
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Old 06-15-2016, 09:59 AM
 
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Source? Also, preventing extremist parents from coming over will prevent tgeir extremist children from having a foothold in the country from which they can plan and carry out attacks.
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Old 06-15-2016, 10:02 AM
 
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Source? Also, preventing extremist parents from coming over will prevent tgeir extremist children from having a foothold in the country from which they can plan and carry out attacks.
And what happens when their parents weren't extremists? You can't seriously believe the world is as simple as you're trying to make it.
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Old 06-15-2016, 10:08 AM
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It seems that no matter what group of people you hate, there is always an organization with a leader who advocates that killing these people is okay because they are sinners or infidels anyway. What needs to be banned is not guns or Muslims but the idea that killing those who you hate is okay.
How many right wing fundamentalist Preachers on Sunday morning preached that what those in that club got was the will of God. More than once politicians and preachers advocated praying for the death of the president , that should be banned.

It is also worth mentioning that your typical Radicalized American Muslim comes from a middle class or upper middle class family. IMO These are young people who spend their life in the US doing everything that is expected of them but as they open their eyes they see they are still not accepted by mainstream American society, so they take the path of what ever is the opposite of that. Most shooters are outsiders.
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Old 06-15-2016, 10:11 AM
 
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truth:

the overwhelming majority of domestic terror attacks have been committed by AMERICAN CITIZENS.
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Old 06-15-2016, 10:19 AM
 
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Source? Also, preventing extremist parents from coming over will prevent tgeir extremist children from having a foothold in the country from which they can plan and carry out attacks.
Fox News' Happening Now is the source.
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Old 06-15-2016, 10:20 AM
 
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I think "muslim ban" is the wrong term to use and I also think your question approaches the issue from the wrong angle. The fact that so many of the recent attacks here and in Europe have been done by home grown terrorists just goes to show that even if the parents who immigrate here are not dangerous or do not participate in attacks themselves, the lack of assimilation from these communities create an environment where their children may become radicalized. The danger is multigenerational. This is another reason why taking in Islamic people in great numbers is dangerous for our country and culture. It is not a reason why increased immigration should be seen as safe and we should increase immigration and refugee programs from that region accordingly.


If Islam is ever going to be a positive influence on our society, they need to be integrated slowly and assimilated in to our own culture. Only then do we let in more in any significant numbers. They must become part of our communities and that is tough to accomplish when they come in great numbers and segregate themselves. This has been a problem with a lot of our immigration in recent years. Separate communities form that are largely self sustaining(and taxpayer sustained through social services) and they have no need to become part of the larger American culture. And unlike the ethnic enclaves of the past most of these communities share the same language and a similar culture which gives them even less reason to assimilate into the existing culture. In order to be sustainable, cross culture immigration must be done in moderation. There is nothing bigoted about recognizing that.
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Old 06-15-2016, 10:20 AM
 
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Minimize the possibility of attacks, not prevent.

The temporary ban until we get our vetting act together doesn't impact American Muslims.
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Old 06-15-2016, 10:22 AM
 
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Minimize the possibility of attacks, not prevent.

The temporary ban until we get our vetting act together doesn't impact American Muslims.
Did you read the OP? How is banning Muslims, temporarily or permanently going to prevent terrorist attacks when the last several Muslim rampages in the US were committed by Americans, not foreigners?
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