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View Poll Results: In her email scandal, was Hillary a crook or an idiot?
idiot: she had no clue as to what she was doing 5 5.49%
crook: she knew exactly what she was doing 86 94.51%
Voters: 91. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-09-2016, 10:50 AM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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Knowingly giving full access to all of the classified information on her server to between 2 to 10 individuals who she knew had no security clearance at all is no different than handing over said classified information to foreign enemies in any way whatsoever...No matter how it is spun or ignored by the DOJ, she would never be able to get security clearance (or avoid prison) if she was anyone other than Hillary. And you can hardly be a President if you cannot even get a security clearance...
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Old 07-09-2016, 10:57 AM
 
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Knowingly giving full access to all of the classified information on her server to between 2 to 10 individuals who she knew had no security clearance at all is no different than handing over said classified information to foreign enemies in any way whatsoever...No matter how it is spun or ignored by the DOJ, she would never be able to get security clearance (or avoid prison) if she was anyone other than Hillary. And you can hardly be a President if you cannot even get a security clearance...
Unless the intent was to provide misinformation to anyone listening.
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Old 07-09-2016, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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He made a great Trump ad, IMO. You would have to be a fool to vote for Clinton now that the truth has been acknowledged.
She is a crook!

Everyone who didn't believe it now knows that she is guilty, and being protected. Comey contradicted himself with every other answer he gave.

Those who would vote for her are delusional at best. Handing her the most powerful position on earth is a horrible idea that will not end well for any of us.

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There were very minor legal consequences when General Petreous handed over secrets to his mistress/biographer and there were no legal consequences for past Sec of State and govt officials who did similar things. This was merely a distraction for the stupid so they could forget Trump was their candidate.
...and then there are those who make it up as they go along.
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Old 07-09-2016, 11:03 AM
 
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[quote=hawkeye2009;44681294]FBI director seemed to defend Hillary's activities, which in his mind would have otherwise been criminal, due to her carelessness and lack of ability to understand how to handle classified material.

In effect, Comey was saying that Hillary is not a crook, she is just an idiot.

Do you agree that Hillary is just stupid, as Comey claims, or actually knew what she was doing by establishing a private email server, shredding documents, and passing classified documents on a server that was not secure?

Idiot or crook?[/quote]



YES
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Old 07-09-2016, 11:04 AM
 
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She is a crook!

Everyone who didn't believe it now knows that she is guilty, and being protected. Comey contradicted himself with every other answer he gave.

Those who would vote for her are delusional at best. Handing her the most powerful position on earth is a horrible idea that will not end well for any of us.



...and then there are those who make it up as they go along.
Delusional, hardly my friend. She's not only a good politician, but she will make a great president.
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Old 07-09-2016, 11:08 AM
 
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[quote=dv1033;44698766]Your party is full of the idiots who thought Trump would be a good candidate. Can't wait to see Hillary debate Trump when she brings up all his legal issues and shady business practices.[/quote]

Email and Clinton Foundation?
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Old 07-09-2016, 11:09 AM
 
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Delusional, hardly my friend. She's not only a good politician, but she will make a great president.


OMG!
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Old 07-09-2016, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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FBI director seemed to defend Hillary's activities, which in his mind would have otherwise been criminal, due to her carelessness and lack of ability to understand how to handle classified material.

In effect, Comey was saying that Hillary is not a crook, she is just an idiot.

Do you agree that Hillary is just stupid, as Comey claims, or actually knew what she was doing by establishing a private email server, shredding documents, and passing classified documents on a server that was not secure?

Idiot or crook?
They aren't mutually exclusive....
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Old 07-09-2016, 11:19 AM
 
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I went with crook, though in fairness, that may not be the case. I'm obviously, like most people, kind of skeptical of the FBI's decision. Frankly, I think it's political BS. As do most people, which is why there's a clear majority of over 90% on this poll, a rarity on CD.

But let's for a moment say what the FBI said is true. Let's hope that they actually did their job, no concern with politics, and simply viewed the evidence as is and came to the conclusion that she had no idea she broke the law (and we assume that the long standing view that ignorance of the law does not excuse breaking it never existed). I don't think it makes her stupid, I think it makes her careless.

Rather or not she knew, the idea that she might not know is actually more frightening to me than she did know but just didn't care. She, in her years of experience, somehow managed to not think that just maybe she can't have classified documents on a private server that would lack the security of a government one.

Never the less, I think she just didn't want some deals she may have made to be subject to the Freedom of Information Act. And regardless of that still, rather it was corruption, stupidity, or carelessness, any of these qualities should not be found in a president.
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Old 07-09-2016, 11:20 AM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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She is a crook!

Everyone who didn't believe it now knows that she is guilty, and being protected. Comey contradicted himself with every other answer he gave.

Those who would vote for her are delusional at best. Handing her the most powerful position on earth is a horrible idea that will not end well for any of us.
Now the life long GOPer Comey is in on the conspiracy?

Some of you folks just can't grasp how much you've been duped by this sideshow. There are actual problems facing this country and the GOP strategy seems to be ignore actual pressing issues and focus on making a case against Clinton.


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...and then there are those who make it up as they go along.
Some folks just don't like the truth.
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