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Old 07-22-2016, 09:14 AM
 
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American companies here will thrive when regulations, taxes and competition with foreign manufacturers are cut back.


American companies here will grow, startup, and do more hiring of our own citizens.


Fewer companies will leave our shores if they can compete here.
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Old 07-22-2016, 09:24 AM
 
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American companies here will thrive when regulations, taxes and competition with foreign manufacturers are cut back.


American companies here will grow, startup, and do more hiring of our own citizens.


Fewer companies will leave our shores if they can compete here.
Exactly, I don't know what about that is so hard to understand.
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Old 07-22-2016, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Exactly, I don't know what about that is so hard to understand.
What I dony understand is how this can be achieved without hurting consumers and the many American companies that sell their products abroad too.
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Old 07-22-2016, 10:01 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Out of curiosity, what kind of product was it?
As listed it was Robotics related (I can't list the product for certain reasons). What was changed was that instead of having different robotics to do different functions all running different software. It was all replaced by one robotics system using one software system. The new robotics system had far less moving parts and the software was so much superior that it ran itself. People were kept onsite for just in case issues, but in reality they did nothing except watch a computer terminal. What they did manually in the past was now automated. For instance if the system generated a error it couldn't resolve, it made the phone call to get a tech in to resolve it and moved whatever job it was working on to another system. Thus instead of having a stoppage to resolve a issue, it had a slowage (can't think of a better word right now) and the process continued.
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Old 07-22-2016, 10:21 AM
 
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Have you driven through Bethlehem lately and seen the trees growing up through the long ago shuttered steel companies?

Bethlehem Steel Mill: an Abandoned Steel Mill in Bethlehem, PA

See where you are on the list below:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_steel_producers

I'm sure you've seen those videos of guys in bare feet cutting up old ships deliberately driven aground to then cart the pieces to steel makers in their countries. You got anywhere in America you can duplicate that model of cost and zero overhead?

And that is why globalism was a bad thing from the start.
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Old 07-22-2016, 10:23 AM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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People seem to have a hard time with this new world and have a hard time thinking past America... Companies want to sell their products to as many people as possible... The world has grown quite a bit in the last 20 years and there are more customers to be had outside of the US now.
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Old 07-22-2016, 10:23 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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not entirely, someone has to install and maintain those machines. They also have to be manufactured. More jobs would be available if this was all done here regardless of the automation.
The staff of someone's would be much less for installation, maintenance and manufacturing. For example, in IT there is a unit called a Tape Library used to backup servers to tape (or create virtual libraries). To put together a older StorageTek unit on a site required over a dozen people to do so. To put together a newer IBM unit on a site takes two. The IBM unit has 1000 times more storage and uses 1/4 of the floor space of the old system.
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Old 07-22-2016, 10:24 AM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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And that is why globalism was a bad thing from the start.
It's an inevitable product of human progress as more and more countries become developed. You are just stuck in an era that no longer exists.
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Old 07-22-2016, 10:31 AM
 
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Exactly, I don't know what about that is so hard to understand.

And how are you going to cut back foreign competition? That is the elephant in the room.
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Old 07-22-2016, 10:42 AM
 
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It's an inevitable product of human progress as more and more countries become developed. You are just stuck in an era that no longer exists.



You may be right on that , but the resurgence of hand made items in the U.S. (on a small scale still)means I'm not the only one that thinks like this. Globalism is a great thing for a corporation, a very good thing if you are part of the developing middle class in a low cost country, and a very bad thing for the U.S. middle class.
And since companies are now global, the no longer care about their former customers, the middle class because they have the world as their customer. That would have been fine, had our government not made it so easy for these companies to just start up operations in those countries. Once again, greed overpowered patriotism. Isn't it a problem when we drop our standard of living to help develop middle classes in other countries ? Our government is already feeling the burn from a shrinking middle class.
That's fine, all things are cyclical and patriotism will rise up again. Hopefully people can ride it out until then.
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