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Old 02-20-2008, 06:15 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Debacle?! Ignoring it?!

Dude...we're winning! The "Surge" worked. Things are actually turning out better for Iraq than before. Their infrastructure is being rebuilt. Schools & businesses are open. Society is stabilizing. Government is functioning properly and maintaining order. Sunni and Shi'a are finding ways to work together. Terrorist thugs are on the run.

Haven't you hea—? uh, oh...wait a minute. Sorry, I forgot...

The mainstream lib-media aren't talking about Iraq anymore! It's just gone, vamoosed, disappeared. No longer newsworthy. Apparently the idea of American success (under Bush!) is so abhorrent to them, they'd rather just ignore it and hope nobody will notice.


Winning WHAT? The 'right' to baby-sit a bunch of slackers who have more interest in vacation and lining their pockets than in doing the work to run their country, AND pay for it with our blood and $$$$$? The 'right' to be less safe after a huge expenditure of blood and money?

BushSpeak certainly assigns odd meanings to 'winning' and 'victory'.
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Old 02-20-2008, 06:38 AM
 
Location: On my way to FLA baby !!
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Debacle?! Ignoring it?!

Dude...we're winning! The "Surge" worked. Things are actually turning out better for Iraq than before. Their infrastructure is being rebuilt. Schools & businesses are open. Society is stabilizing. Government is functioning properly and maintaining order. Sunni and Shi'a are finding ways to work together. Terrorist thugs are on the run.

Haven't you hea—? uh, oh...wait a minute. Sorry, I forgot...

The mainstream lib-media aren't talking about Iraq anymore! It's just gone, vamoosed, disappeared. No longer newsworthy. Apparently the idea of American success (under Bush!) is so abhorrent to them, they'd rather just ignore it and hope nobody will notice.

LN, you might as well forget trying to convince these people as they are dead set against hearing anything good, like "most" liberals they want it to be a failure and wont ever look at it as such no matter what.

Also, if you ask me we have returned to the real debacle, yes its called liberalism and its worse then we ever saw in the 1960-70's only the libs are much more power hungry and agressive then they were when they last destroyed America with their ways.
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Old 02-20-2008, 06:41 AM
 
Location: On my way to FLA baby !!
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Debacle?! Ignoring it?!

Dude...we're winning! The "Surge" worked. Things are actually turning out better for Iraq than before. Their infrastructure is being rebuilt. Schools & businesses are open. Society is stabilizing. Government is functioning properly and maintaining order. Sunni and Shi'a are finding ways to work together. Terrorist thugs are on the run.

Haven't you hea—? uh, oh...wait a minute. Sorry, I forgot...

The mainstream lib-media aren't talking about Iraq anymore! It's just gone, vamoosed, disappeared. No longer newsworthy. Apparently the idea of American success (under Bush!) is so abhorrent to them, they'd rather just ignore it and hope nobody will notice.

What will the loonie bins do if it continues to be a success? Oh my, they wouldnt be able to handle it!
Traitor and cold blooded hacker Jack Murtha would even run and hide so he wouldnt have to EAT his traitor words.
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Old 02-20-2008, 07:35 AM
 
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affuence breeds experimentation. austerity and
hard times breeds survival skill.
A very profound, basic truth!

This explains why the Depression/WWII generation are so often referred to as the "Greatest"—all that adversity they grew up with in the '30s & '40s produced a certain grit and depth of character not seen since.

Many (though not all) of the "Boomers"—raised on the prosperity yielded by their parents' toil—grew up spoiled and selfish, later bringing us the Summer of Love, Woodstock, and ultimately the Clintons.
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Old 02-20-2008, 07:38 AM
 
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LN, you might as well forget trying to convince these people as they are dead set against hearing anything good, like "most" liberals they want it to be a failure and wont ever look at it as such no matter what.

Also, if you ask me we have returned to the real debacle, yes its called liberalism and its worse then we ever saw in the 1960-70's only the libs are much more power hungry and agressive then they were when they last destroyed America with their ways.
Amen to everything you said.

And it's true—sometimes arguing w/libs feels like talking to a brick wall. The fun part is when some kernel of truth actually pierces the cranium and seeps on in...that's usually when they get hysterical and start to lose all grip.
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Old 02-20-2008, 07:47 AM
 
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Amen to everything you said.

And it's true—sometimes arguing w/libs feels like talking to a brick wall. The fun part is when some kernel of truth actually pierces the cranium and seeps on in...that's usually when they get hysterical and start to lose all grip.


Get back to us when your so-called 'successfulk surge' is a political success, until then it's meaningless in the long term. It's hardly a surprise that the greatest military in the world is able to defeat that of some pi**-pot country, fighting for people who won't fight for themselves is a wasteful use of that military.
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Old 02-20-2008, 07:56 AM
 
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Seems to me you have a problem with authority. Do you also think there should be no laws. Perhaps you would prefer an anarchy?


Seems to me that you have a problem with those who would question authority or teach that to their children. If children are raised to blindly accept authority without question, when they're preyed upon by authority figures like teachers, coaches, priests, etc., WHAT THEN?


If, as some have suggested here, questioning authority is a characteristic only of liberals:

THREE CHEERS FOR LIBERALISM!
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Old 02-20-2008, 07:57 AM
 
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Winning WHAT? The 'right' to baby-sit a bunch of slackers who have more interest in vacation and lining their pockets than in doing the work to run their country, AND pay for it with our blood and $$$$$?...
We still have U.S. troops stationed in Germany, Japan and South Korea, some 50-60 years after the end of hostilities there. Are those U.S. allies considered "slackers" lining their pockets and wanting us to run their countries for them?
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:06 AM
 
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We still have U.S. troops stationed in Germany, Japan and South Korea, some 50-60 years after the end of hostilities there. Are those U.S. allies considered "slackers" lining their pockets and wanting us to run their countries for them?
We're in those places because they provide bases where we think we need them, no need to do that in Iraq, we have are alleged allies the Saudis conveniently located in the area.

No, those you mention are not like the Iraqis who when handed a golden opportunity to shape the country they desire find it a better idea to go on vacation while Americans continue fighting and dying for them 24/7. And 5 years after the end of combat American bllod wasn't being spilled in those places. Screw Iraq! All the religious bigots in that entire region should be confined to the region and allowed to kill each other 'til their heart's content, the world would be a better place for it.

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Old 02-20-2008, 08:10 AM
 
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A very profound, basic truth!

This explains why the Depression/WWII generation are so often referred to as the "Greatest"—all that adversity they grew up with in the '30s & '40s produced a certain grit and depth of character not seen since.

Many (though not all) of the "Boomers"—raised on the prosperity yielded by their parents' toil—grew up spoiled and selfish, later bringing us the Summer of Love, Woodstock, and ultimately the Clintons.

I totally agree.
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