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Old 08-05-2016, 09:16 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Radio Prague - Zeman: Czechs should arm themselves over threat of terrorism


""" The president said that he had been against the proliferation of weapons but had changed his position after recent terror attacks in Germany and France. He also called for active protection of the Czech Republic’s borders and said he would “not even be against a fence” on the country’s frontiers if there were a large inflow of illegal migrants. Mr. Zeman said asylum seekers who had their applications rejected should be quickly deported. Condemning terror attacks is easy, the only solution is doing away with the causes, the head of state told Blesk.cz."""
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Old 08-05-2016, 11:42 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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Radio Prague - Zeman: Czechs should arm themselves over threat of terrorism


""" The president said that he had been against the proliferation of weapons but had changed his position after recent terror attacks in Germany and France. He also called for active protection of the Czech Republic’s borders and said he would “not even be against a fence” on the country’s frontiers if there were a large inflow of illegal migrants. Mr. Zeman said asylum seekers who had their applications rejected should be quickly deported. Condemning terror attacks is easy, the only solution is doing away with the causes, the head of state told Blesk.cz."""

When enough people die, over this "Religion of Peace"; people will finally wake up; and take measures to protect them selves.
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Old 08-06-2016, 03:50 AM
 
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Liberals used to point to France and other Euro countries all the time, until:

France implemented what comes to as close to martial law without setting curfews.

The British started turning their police into a sub-unit of the military.

Hollande started talking about closing off immigration.

Germany's women were sexually assaulted enmasse.

Using guns in countries with the strictest gun controls became routine.

Mass killings continued using weapons other than guns.


They touted the comments of Hollande and some leaders in GB as they complained about Trump until they started doing exactly what Trump said he wanted to do.

Now, silence. Oh wait, now they want to rekindle the cold war, this time with post Soviet Russia.

They hold up the end of the last cold war because of moderation and measured rhetoric but never and I mean never, seem to mention how President Reagan joked about dropping bombs on the USSR. Oh, they screamed bloody murder about it then but they couldn't argue the results. Sound familiar?
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Old 08-06-2016, 03:54 AM
 
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Radio Prague - Zeman: Czechs should arm themselves over threat of terrorism


""" The president said that he had been against the proliferation of weapons but had changed his position after recent terror attacks in Germany and France. He also called for active protection of the Czech Republic’s borders and said he would “not even be against a fence” on the country’s frontiers if there were a large inflow of illegal migrants. Mr. Zeman said asylum seekers who had their applications rejected should be quickly deported. Condemning terror attacks is easy, the only solution is doing away with the causes, the head of state told Blesk.cz."""
A continent is making demands? How exactly does that work?
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Old 08-06-2016, 04:29 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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The British started turning their police into a sub-unit of the military.
95% of police in Great Britain patrol unarmed, yes we have specialist units like every other country on earth but we are certainly not turning our police in to a sub-unit of the military.

I think this needs to be looked at in perspective, as the police in Great Britain and more especially London have a long history of having access to firearms and today far fewer officers are trained in the use of firearms than in previous decades when training was far less rigorous and guns could be signed out of police station armouries as required.

In the 1960's around 17% of London's Police, nearly one in five was trained to use a firearm and could sign one out of the police armoury, today the figure is less than 10% and that's with the current increase to 2,800 Firearms Officers. The increase to 2,800 taking London back to the levels of armed police in 2012 when London hosted the Olympics, after which through short sightedness there were cuts to armed police numbers.

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Society has, over recent years, been debating the issues around fully arming the police in response to increasing armed crime, some of which have include several high profile incidents.

Actually, this issue has been debated for over a hundred years. In fact the Metropolitan Police back in 1884, after the murders of two constables, were given permission from the Commissioner of the day, to carry revolvers during uniformed night time patrols. These were called 'Comforters' and each Officer would make up their own mind if they wished to carry them. This was the nearest we have ever been to a fully armed service and that was over a hundred years ago.

This remained the case until 1936 when the revolvers were taken off the constables and kept locked in a cupboard back at the station. If they had 'good reason' for having a revolver they would have to get permission from their Station Sergeant.

Firearms Command History - Metropolitan Police Service

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Historically, officers on night patrols in some London divisions were frequently armed with Webley revolvers. These were introduced following the murder of two officers in 1884, although individual officers were able to choose whether to carry the weapons.

After the Battle of Stepney in 1911, Webley semi-automatics were issued to officers, armed police were rare by the turn of the century, and were retired formally in July 1936.

From that point on, firearms could only be issued by a Sergeant with good reason, and only then to officers who had been trained in their usage.The issue of routine arming was raised after the 1952 Derek Bentley case where a Constable was shot dead and a Sergeant severely wounded, and again after the 1966 Massacre of Braybrook Street, in which three London officers were killed.

As a result, around 17% of officers in London became authorised to carry firearms. After the deaths of a number of members of the public in the 1980s fired upon by police, control was considerably tightened, many officers had their firearm authorisation revoked, and training for the remainder was greatly improved.

Police Firearms History - Police Firearms Officers Association
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Old 08-06-2016, 05:40 AM
 
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If Obama did ONE thing right, he did get as many firearms sold to people as humanly possible.
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Old 08-06-2016, 05:48 AM
 
Location: Eastern Tennessee
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A continent is making demands? How exactly does that work?
SMH. OP post was pertinent. Can't say the same for your sophomoric reply. This is an important issue.
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Old 08-06-2016, 05:55 AM
 
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SMH. OP post was pertinent. Can't say the same for your sophomoric reply. This is an important issue.
Only to those obsessed with firearms.
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Old 08-06-2016, 06:03 AM
 
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Only to those obsessed with firearms.
And freedom.
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Old 08-06-2016, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I have known a few folks from both sides of the iron curtain (remember that thing?) and all of them said that illegal firearms were available to anyone that wanted to look. The favorites appeared to be WW2 German and Russian guns. These folks parents and grandparents were not so stupid to leave perfectly functional guns to rust or be destroyed by a "concerned" or tyrannical government.


IMHO - Much of the problems in Europe are the result of a massive influx of people that do not have the same culture as the native Europeans. Unless Europe is willing to become another Muslim culture they will have to either educate the refugees (?) of just send them back to the Hell they were running from. As this is unlikely due to the need for industrial warm bodies deportation is unlikely. Reeducation is also very difficult.


I have to question how effective legally rearming the European population would be. Learning that the police are not responsible for defending the individual is nearly impossible for American to accept. As that is almost entirely foreign to Europeans they would likely be shocked if their government actually said they could not protect individual citizens. Shocked or not arming individuals is a rational alternative to being moving targets for the terrorists. Controlling immigration, as in stopping all but the highly educated, is necessary unless the native Europeans want to loose their secular culture and be subject to the Mullah's Sharia tyranny.


Be alert, Be aware, Be Armed.
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