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Only those who believe random internet posts from Fox News....
The OP is really outrageous and I cannot believe that any of you actually believe that the FAA is going to hire "diverse" (code word for "minority" mostly in your minds "blacks").
The OP link stated that all hiring for the FAA would be "race based." This is not true and goes against federally mandated labor laws for government employment. No one can be denied based on race, including white people with experience. It seems too many of you only view "race" to mean black or hispanic. "White" is also a race and white people cannot be discriminated against in federal hiring based on them being white.
Did a quick google (hint - google is your friend for whenever you want to review specific types of legislation that has been approved by the president of which the OP link mentioned that President Obama signed off on "raced based" hiring in July, 2016).
Found out that the recent FAA bill passed in July did not mention anything about "race based" hiring of either pilots or ATCs.
Also that earlier this year there was a lot of discussion about the use of a specific "biographical questionaire" that supposedly measured the characteristics below and which would allow people with no training to compete for jobs at an equal footing to those who didn't do well on this questionaire, yet who had extensive training in aviation:
The test, officials said, measures risk tolerance, dependability, cooperation, resilience, stress tolerance and other traits. It was developed through years of research to predict pass rates at the FAA Academy in Oklahoma City, the agency’s principal training facility, and whether a controller will be certified at his or her first air traffic site.
FYI to the OP, not even your Fox News article is about hiring of "pilots." It is about air traffic controllers.
That actual provision shown above is not currently in effect.
From Forbes, note this is an August, 2016 article:
Quote:
The announcement should come as good news to graduates of college controller training programs, known as Collegiate Training Initiative or CTI programs, many of whom were unable to secure positions with the FAA in recent years because of a controversial hiring experiment by the FAA which put a candidate’s biographical background ahead of his or her aviation credentials. Congress put significant limits on that initiative this year, prohibiting the FAA in its reauthorization act (known as the FAA Extension, Safety and Security Act of 2016) from using biographical data when hiring experienced controllers, graduates of CTI programs or eligible veterans. The FAA can still use biographical information when hiring from the general public.
Note - the "biographical information" is not "race based" it is based upon the information shown in the above quote...
This is probably the worst Fox News piece I have ever read and I cannot believe that so many of you who fall into the category of what Ih2puo describes above are so much like that first word and you just willy nilly believe everything your "trusted" media source tells you.
The craziest part of the OP piece is how the author veers off from supposed Federal "race based hiring" which is not allowed by ANY Federal agency to state's having minority "Set-Aside" programs. Most people like Ih2puo described above don't understand that State government and Federal government are NOT the same thing. The Federal government, including the FAA can NOT have a minority set aside based on Federal law. They offer NO minority incentives in either hiring or contracting. State and local county/municipal governments can. They are not the same as Federal. The author even mentioned the state of Colorado, because it is not the Federal government....gosh so many of you people like Ih2puo described, probably that poster included who cannot do any research on your own and verify your "sources."
For all those who don't want to be that person that Ih2puo described, we should not believe just one random internet source and take it for the truth. Verify it people!!! It is not that hard
Only those who believe random internet posts from Fox News....
The OP is really outrageous and I cannot believe that any of you actually believe that the FAA is going to hire "diverse" (code word for "minority" mostly in your minds "blacks").
The OP link stated that all hiring for the FAA would be "race based." This is not true and goes against federally mandated labor laws for government employment. No one can be denied based on race, including white people with experience. It seems too many of you only view "race" to mean black or hispanic. "White" is also a race and white people cannot be discriminated against in federal hiring based on them being white.
Did a quick google (hint - google is your friend for whenever you want to review specific types of legislation that has been approved by the president of which the OP link mentioned that President Obama signed off on "raced based" hiring in July, 2016).
Found out that the recent FAA bill passed in July did not mention anything about "race based" hiring of either pilots or ATCs.
Also that earlier this year there was a lot of discussion about the use of a specific "biographical questionaire" that supposedly measured the characteristics below and which would allow people with no training to compete for jobs at an equal footing to those who didn't do well on this questionaire, yet who had extensive training in aviation:
From Forbes, note this is an August, 2016 article:
Note - the "biographical information" is not "race based" it is based upon the information shown in the above quote...
This is probably the worst Fox News piece I have ever read and I cannot believe that so many of you who fall into the category of what Ih2puo describes above are so much like that first word and you just willy nilly believe everything your "trusted" media source tells you.
The craziest part of the OP piece is how the author veers off from supposed Federal "race based hiring" which is not allowed by ANY Federal agency to state's having minority "Set-Aside" programs. Most people like Ih2puo described above don't understand that State government and Federal government are NOT the same thing. The Federal government, including the FAA can NOT have a minority set aside based on Federal law. They offer NO minority incentives in either hiring or contracting. State and local county/municipal governments can. They are not the same as Federal. The author even mentioned the state of Colorado, because it is not the Federal government....gosh so many of you people like Ih2puo described, probably that poster included who cannot do any research on your own and verify your "sources."
For all those who don't want to be that person that Ih2puo described, we should not believe just one random internet source and take it for the truth. Verify it people!!! It is not that hard
The biographical stuff IS race-based. Not directly, but it is designed so blacks can compete without having to get the same qualifications as whites. It would be like Harvard not looking at grades and test scores and using a phony exam thats is so random anyone has a shot.
Do what you want. You cannot expect long term profits if you skimp on quality. Dont ever think you have monopoly over an industry. People would opt out whenever they can. Maybe not overseas travel but domestic air travel can be replaced by driving, trains & greyhounds if flying is no longer a safe option.
Europe offers the best tourism industry in the world but nobody is going there because of recent safety issues. Businesses start losing money & they will push to change the laws to recover from temporary bad decisions. Liberal slumber doesn't last too long.
The biographical stuff IS race-based. Not directly, but it is designed so blacks can compete without having to get the same qualifications as whites. It would be like Harvard not looking at grades and test scores and using a phony exam thats is so random anyone has a shot.
How is it race based....?
Because Fox News told you so??
I specifically posted the "biographical traits" they are looking for. None of them have anything to do with race.
And I am black, I am fully aware that black people can "compete" with whites. I'm much smarter than all the white posters who have posted thus far in this thread and took for truth the idiocy of the OP link, I won the reading competition it seems.
Contrary to what you believe, whites are not superior to other human beings. We are all human beings. Seems you and the majority of posters on this thread really do feel you are so superior that no one can "compete" with you lol. That is your problem. You should learn how to read and not be so guillable. Maybe you have nothing else to feel superior about in your life, who knows. If so, that is sad.
Harvard does not just look at grades or test scores in its admission process either. They rely on a number of factors and IMO they are much more subjective than the federal government on race since they can actually consider it. Federal government CANNOT. There are laws against it and it is NOT allowed.
Only those who believe random internet posts from Fox News....
The OP is really outrageous and I cannot believe that any of you actually believe that the FAA is going to hire "diverse" (code word for "minority" mostly in your minds "blacks").
The OP link stated that all hiring for the FAA would be "race based." This is not true and goes against federally mandated labor laws for government employment. No one can be denied based on race, including white people with experience. It seems too many of you only view "race" to mean black or hispanic. "White" is also a race and white people cannot be discriminated against in federal hiring based on them being white.
Did a quick google (hint - google is your friend for whenever you want to review specific types of legislation that has been approved by the president of which the OP link mentioned that President Obama signed off on "raced based" hiring in July, 2016).
Found out that the recent FAA bill passed in July did not mention anything about "race based" hiring of either pilots or ATCs.
Also that earlier this year there was a lot of discussion about the use of a specific "biographical questionaire" that supposedly measured the characteristics below and which would allow people with no training to compete for jobs at an equal footing to those who didn't do well on this questionaire, yet who had extensive training in aviation:
From Forbes, note this is an August, 2016 article:
Note - the "biographical information" is not "race based" it is based upon the information shown in the above quote...
This is probably the worst Fox News piece I have ever read and I cannot believe that so many of you who fall into the category of what Ih2puo describes above are so much like that first word and you just willy nilly believe everything your "trusted" media source tells you.
The craziest part of the OP piece is how the author veers off from supposed Federal "race based hiring" which is not allowed by ANY Federal agency to state's having minority "Set-Aside" programs. Most people like Ih2puo described above don't understand that State government and Federal government are NOT the same thing. The Federal government, including the FAA can NOT have a minority set aside based on Federal law. They offer NO minority incentives in either hiring or contracting. State and local county/municipal governments can. They are not the same as Federal. The author even mentioned the state of Colorado, because it is not the Federal government....gosh so many of you people like Ih2puo described, probably that poster included who cannot do any research on your own and verify your "sources."
For all those who don't want to be that person that Ih2puo described, we should not believe just one random internet source and take it for the truth. Verify it people!!! It is not that hard
You didnt read your own link. Pool 2 requires NO qualifications.
Quote:
i) IN GENERAL.—After giving preferential consideration to applicants under subparagraph (A), the Administrator shall consider additional applicants for the position of air traffic controller by referring an approximately equal number of individuals for appointment among the 2 applicant pools described in this subparagraph. The number of individuals referred for consideration from each group shall not differ by more than 10 percent.
“(ii) POOL 1.—Pool 1 applicants are individuals who—
“(I) have successfully completed air traffic controller training and graduated from an institution participating in the Collegiate Training Initiative program maintained under subsection (c)(1) and who have received from the
“(aa) an appropriate recommendation; or
“(bb) an endorsement certifying that the individual would have met the requirements in effect as of December 31, 2013, for an appropriate recommendation;
“(II) are eligible for a veterans recruitment appointment pursuant to section 4214 of title 38 and provide a Certificate of Release or Discharge from Active Duty within 120 days of the announcement closing;
“(III) are eligible veterans (as defined in section 4211 of title 38) maintaining aviation experience obtained in the course of the individual’s military experience; or
“(IV) are preference eligible veterans (as defined in section 2108 of title 5).
“(iii) POOL 2.—Pool 2 applicants are individuals who apply under a vacancy announcement recruiting from all United States citizens.
and look at all the conservative white males on here running scared over something made up.
sad lot.
which posters did your spidey senses inform you are 'conservative white males'?
name them.
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